Whoa...  I think someone's goofed slightly here.  I said i don't owe them my
services, skills, etc, for free.

David said that we don't get stuff given to them, and we should not be
giving them things for free.    However, I think his point was that he's
viewing the mandates on us as "payment" for unlicensed spectrum.

I see unlicensed spectrum as nothing more than the FCC doing it's job, to
promote use of a public asset (rf spectrum) as it's supposed to be used...
for the benefit of the people.  I don't see that as obligating me to do any
old thing they happen to dream up for me to do for them.

And if it's a quid pro quo, where's the balance point?   Do I owe them a
$100 / mo service?   A $3000 + 400/mo ttp contract for it?   WHat is it?

And why aren't we defending our industry from gatekeeper regulation which
stifles entry into it?

Man, you people don't logically connect the dots, do you?   Why wasn't WISPA
asking every member, list member, and everyone else they could to flood the
FCC with objections, and then offer a much saner view of how ISP's can
assist LEA's?    WISPA doesn't need to advocate flaunting the law to object,
as some here are misportraying the notion.    Instead, we're trying to
downplay a very arbitrary intrusion into our networks and business.  Instead
of building leadership, WISPA is letting it slip away.

Or maybe WISPA's figuring to join the ranks of the TTP's out there trying to
scare people into buying into something for protection.   When that's done
to a brick and mortar business, it's called extortion.   Really, I don't
think they are...  But that's how some people have viewed it.  I know, I've
seen the comments.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ryan Langseth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition


> On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 21:19 -0700, George Rogato wrote:
> >
> > David E. Smith wrote:
> > > Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
> > You pay some property taxes, you get to use all
> > > those roads they built.
> > > . It's all trade-offs. Basic
> > > freshman-year-of-college economics.
> >
> >
> > I just wanted to point out an error you just made mark, you said :
> >
> > "The government doesn't give you stuff for free,"
> >
> > And your correct, but this other part is incorrect:
> >
> > "you don't give them stuff for free"
> >
> > Yes we do.
>
> Care to quantify this statement?
> >
> > -- 
> > George Rogato
> >
> > Welcome to WISPA
> >
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> >
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