I won't defend all the crazy intrusions by government.

But this is not a fee to conduct business.   This isn't a tax.   This is a
mandate to carry out the functions of law enforcement for them, purely for
thier convenience.   It isn't even a regulation to enforce quality standards
on internet services, nor consumer protection from shoddy internet services,
nor is it even a protection from badly conducted wireless operations.
Theoretically, your contractor's license and so on were "consumer
protection" concerning the business you were in.   The effectiveness can be
debated, and this is not the place for that.

But, CALEA has NOTHING to do with providing internet services nor consumer
protection.  It is simply transferrence of law enforcement functions to YOU
to do at your own expense, by your own people and at YOUR OWN LIABILITY.
If you mix up someone's traffic, because someone made a typo, do you REALLY
think that you will be protected from the wrath of the legal eagles out to
get you?   Don't count on it.

And it is impossible for small operators to be in complete compliance.   And
it presents an obstacle to technological innovation and it presents MAJOR
obstacles to certtain types of desired network types, such as mesh.

There are many other ways for law enforcement to get what it needs.   Even
better would be a REAL law, written properly, and funded properly by
Congress, instead of this absurdity about information services and
telecommuncations services.   You know, of course, that this hybrid
'standing' is about as shaky as a sand castle on the beach.  It wont' be any
time before we're fully "telecommuncations services" and the mandates and
regulations and controls fly at us like vultures to roadkill or flies to a
cowpie.

It's a very small thing to support the notion that small ISP's be exempt for
obvious reasons.  But you won't even do that?  Why the bloody hell not?
What have you got against them?



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] from WISPA's home page....


>
>
> Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
>
> >> Why does wispa want to take an antagonistic stance towards legal high
> >> tech wiretapping?
> >
> > BECAUSE IT IS FREAKING WRONG, GEORGE, for the government to shift the
cost
> > of law enforcement to specific business entities for its own
convenience.
> > Why can't you see this?
> >
>
> When I was in the electrical contracting business, I was forced to have
> all kinds of fees laid upon me to conduct business.
>
> This isp business is one of the least regulated with the least intrusive
> and least government costs.
>
> If your moaning and groaning about what will probably turn out to be
> very low cost solutions, (an assumption) what are you going to do when
> it comes time to hire employees and then fall inline with those
> government regulations and costs?
>
>
> -- 
> George Rogato
>
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