Jack - I would be interested in motivating the manufacturers. I work for a large manufacturer but plan to go to a smaller company becase I like working in focused delta team environment. But I can see how working with manufacturers can be helpful. Can you provide additional thoughts.
Marlon - any suggestions on your part? Felix --- Jack Unger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > See comment inline, near end of post. > > > Mark Koskenmaki wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 5:05 PM > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ? > > > > > >> Dawn DiPietro wrote: > >>> Mike, > >>> > >>> If you think you are under the radar you are > sorely mistaken. You > >>> admitted on a public list that gear you use is > not certified. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Dawn DiPietro > >> Yeah, but your over the limit! :) > >> > >> Heck why go after a 3000 little guys when you can > go after one big guy. > >> They've been selling unlicensed amplifiers and > uncertified systems for > >> as long as I can remember. Heck, talk about > posting a message on this > >> list, what about having a full blown catalog > online advertizing US sales > >> with prices next to them? > >> > >> I believe they should have spent the 3 or 4 g's > to get the systems they > >> sell certified before they sold them. > >> > >> They make millions easily selling uncertified > gear and it's not a secret. > > > > Ohh, I feel another rant coming on.. .George, you > better take a chill pill > > :) > > > > While this is a peripheral issue with > "certification", I have made > > suggestions to the FCC about certification of > individual components. I > > kinda doubt it's going to happen. At least not > soon, regulators are > > notorious for not liking change, since it makes > things less tidy for them. > > > > I buy computer components... motherboad, > processors, video cards, and so > > on... And tires, and car parts, and actually > quite a few other things that > > have technical performance reviews by people who > have tested things. > > > > I WISH that manufacturers could certify > components, because then we'd have > > published real-wolrd performance graphs and charts > to use for comparison > > when we buy things. Just "certified" really > isn't "good enough" in my > > view. I recall that a good number of years ago, > there was a hack for a > > linksys AP that turned up the power. Someone used > an SA on it and found > > that when you did it, the output became incredibly > dirty. > > > > Certified or not, I would like to know that what I > buy is "clean" rf-wise. > > Low OOB emissions. Minimal out of channel > emissions, selective recievers > > that reject adjacent channel noise. Really > comparable specs for dealing > > with noise and S/N ratios, etc. > > > > I really dislike not knowing those things about > what I buy. And, due to > > the way certification works, certification has > almost no meaning when it > > comes to those important RF characteristics. > Early on in my investigating > > the wireless business, lots of people were testing > new products and > > publishing the results. I dont' see ANY of that > going on anymore. > > Wrong. Certification DOES test for out of band > emissions; it also tests > for out of channel emissions. It does not test for > receiver selectivity > because that is not a characteristic that will mess > up the band. Part 15 > certification deals primarily with dirty transmitted > signals, not poor > receivers. > jack > > > > > Any suggestions to motivate manufacturers? > > > > -- > Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, > Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. > FCC License # PG-12-25133 > Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 > Author of the WISP Handbook - "Deploying > License-Free Wireless WANs" > True Vendor-Neutral Wireless > Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting > FCC Part 15 Certification Assistance for Wireless > Service Providers > Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 > www.ask-wi.com > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
