Are you joking Marlon? What do you think WiMAX does? It generates far higher payload through a time slot than does current 802.11. Regardless, that is not the point and it does not matter.
The point is that this band will be really difficult for someone to plan and operate a business except in a rural area with little to no other competition (so it should be great for WISPs). It has zero to do with RF and everything to do with the "cooperation" REQUIREMENT of the rule. It forces a new entrant to work with the incumbent and vice versa. So you work something out and go home. Next day another guys pops up. Guess what, your old agreement gets tossed out the window and you MUST make accommodation for the next guy of else he can take you to court (and win). So then the THREE of you strike a deal and go back home. The next day a 4th WISP comes in and guess what? It starts all over again. Each time you MUST, by law, cooperate and come to a mutually satisfactory agreement. Again. And Again. And again. In a Part-15 world, you'd just blow off the competition if you could not work something out -- may the best operator win. But, in this set of rules back you must go to work around every new entity that pops up. Guys like you will spend 1/4 your time educating the new WISP and 1/2 your time constantly changing your architecture to accommodate them. The other 1/4 you can spend making money. Build a model around that that works. Hope you have lots of money for legal fees embedded into the model. I am not being alarmist or silly. I just read two different legal analyses that agree entirely. Now take that with the fact that almost all the east and west coast cities (70% of the population maybe) is off the table due to the exclusion zones. What it means is that no major vendor will invest to develop something new for this band. Instead, you are going to get low end downbanded stuff, legacy sync products, or WiMAX that will crash and burn because it has no .16h and has to share the lower 25 MHz with Canopy like products. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 4:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] the big wild card statement from the 3650 order As a wisp, I'd like to see it done on time slots. Wanna charge more for your radio? Make it push more data through smaller time slots. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services 42846865 (icq) WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 1:38 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] the big wild card statement from the 3650 order I agree with the whole thing on principal. My beef is that it does not define enough what is "cooperation." As vendors, we want people to cooperate. But so you cooperate, good for you. But what happens with the next guy comes in. You have to cooperate with him too. Then the next, then the next. How many times can you redo your channel plans? How do you olan a business that way? Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 10:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] the big wild card statement from the 3650 order Patrick, I would expect that the optimistic perspective would be better here. This is better than no protections at all. At least we have a statement from the FCC that we must try to work together here. That is better than the "Wild West" we have in Part-15. For sure "owning" the spectrum in a license makes all the issues go away but there is nothing wrong with trying new things and I am very excited about this new 3650 "license light" type of idea. I have asked you to send me pricing and other information so I can be one of the first to launch 3650 when it is allowed legally. Please do not take the wind out of my sails when I am trying to buy your products. Besides, those lawyers don't scare me. If you remember I am married to one! :-) Scriv Patrick Leary wrote: >"(d) All applicants and licensees shall cooperate in the selection and >use of frequencies in the 3650-3700 MHz band in order to minimize the >potential for interference and make the most effective use of the >authorized facilities. A database identifying the locations of >registered stations will be available at <http://wireless.fcc.gov/uls>. >Licensees should examine this database before seeking station >authorization, and make every effort to ensure that their fixed and base >stations operate at a location, and with technical parameters, that will >minimize the potential to cause and receive interference. Licensees of >stations suffering or causing harmful interference are expected to >cooperate and resolve this problem by mutually satisfactory >arrangements." > >Words like "must," "shall," "expected," are loaded as they give everyone >legal cover to bring people to the table yet it does not specify what >constitutes adequate effort or a resolution or a limit. MASSIVE >Pandora's Box that will keep lawyers busy. 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