Heres all the info you should need..

http://www.astlinux.org/index.php


http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=AstLinux%20Users%20Guide%20Chapter%201<http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=AstLinux%2520Users%2520Guide%2520Chapter%25201>



On 7/5/07, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

That's your fault.  :-p


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango & VOIP


> unless you aren't using Asterix :-)
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango & VOIP
>
>
>> IAX2 trunking is your savior.
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Doug Ratcliffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:39 AM
>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Trango & VOIP
>>
>>
>> But in the same sense, its not as cut and dry as oversubscription.  If
it
>> were, then a 5Mbps/5Mbps ratio could give me 103 calls/Mbit (IAX2/G729)
>> but
>> in reality, that's 100k PPS per 100 calls, making it unworkable.  But
at
>> the
>> same token, if I decide 15 concurrent calls @ G711 per AP is a usable
>> number
>> with bandwidth left over, I can manage oversubscription there.
>>
>> Ultimately, it's the PPS that kills it.  But can systems like Mikrotik
>> for
>> QOS adequately pack the packets over the wireless so that instead of
>> transmitting 100 300byte packets, to transmit 20 1500byte packets?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:06 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango & VOIP
>>
>> I have plenty of VOIP customers behind my Trango network.
>> I'm also getting excellent results using Targeted Technologies
>> proprietary
>> 8K stream VOIP even over my 900Mhz Trango.
>> Trango has plenty of processing power and pps performance to do VOIP.
>>
>> The relevent question is, is the oversubscription rate you plan to use
on
>> your network within the capabilty of delivering VOIP?
>> There are many challenges in delivering quality VOIP over ANY PtMP
>> network
>> design.
>>
>> Although prioirtization helps, its not the one save all feature. In
PtMP
>> end
>>
>> users must compete for upload time of the AP, even smart polling
systems
>> do
>> not 100% solve this issue in an oversubscribed network, although helps
>> significantly. Backend prioiritization is not enough for upload
>> direction,
>> if it gets choked at the AP before it reaches the prioritization.  If
you
>> are going to do VOIP, you must be more conservative on your
>> oversubscription
>>
>> rate, and you will be fine.  On the download side it is not a problem
as
>> traffic will reach the bandwdith management/prioiritization before it
>> reaches the AP.
>>
>> With that said, Trango had been working on a VOIP prioritized firmware
>> last
>> year for the 5580, I do not know if it was released or not.
>> The second issue is whether you are designing your Trango network with
>> enough RF margin.  Never never use a bare 5580 radio, its
pointless.  The
>> Behive antennas are now shipping for the Trango 5580 also!! They work
>> great,
>>
>> and bring the signal up to between 15-18 db antenna gain, depending on
>> the
>> case.  They are great.
>>
>> Lastly, the newest Trango Firmwares added some support to help with out
>> of
>> order packets with its ARQ algorithym.  This seemed to help quite a bit
>> to
>> optimize the VOIP performance when using ARQ.  We only run Trango with
>> ARQ.
>> To valuable to turn off.  (With the exception of for 5830s).
>>
>> The other decission you'll need to make is whetehr the over all design
of
>> your network is good enough to be a VOIP provider. You will have to be
>> the
>> judge of that.  Voice services are demanding, from an uptime SLA point
of
>> view.  To handle this, we are adding more point to point links, more
>> licensed links, getting rid of backbone bottle necks, etc.
>>
>> But Trango can handle VOIP just fine, as far as capabilty of a radio.
>> The
>> VOIP engineering is up to you, on the router behind and in front of
them.
>>
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Doug Ratcliffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 2:23 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Trango & VOIP
>>
>>
>> Just a quick question to the list, is Trango 5800 series still a viable
>> option for providing data & VOIP (IAX2) to customers?  I know a few
ISPs
>> out
>> there who use it for that, but there's virtually no data at all on the
>> Trango site regarding it.  I tried Canopy Adv. a few months back but
was
>> unhappy with the overall range & quality (2.5 miles LOS w/ a reflector,
>> and
>> 8 port ATA, the voice was choppy when I had all 8 calls going).  I'm
>> transmitting 1-3 miles over a salt water ¾ mile wide river.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am just looking for some real world experiences out there.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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