Doug: I believe the other key factor is your RF
environment "I’m
transmitting 1-3 miles over a salt water ¾ mile wide
river."  Assuming you are using RF planning tools, You
may want to tweak your RF link path analysis.    

F



--- Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have plenty of VOIP customers behind my Trango
> network.
> I'm also getting excellent results using Targeted
> Technologies proprietary 
> 8K stream VOIP even over my 900Mhz Trango.
> Trango has plenty of processing power and pps
> performance to do VOIP.
> 
> The relevent question is, is the oversubscription
> rate you plan to use on 
> your network within the capabilty of delivering
> VOIP?
> There are many challenges in delivering quality VOIP
> over ANY PtMP network 
> design.
> 
> Although prioirtization helps, its not the one save
> all feature. In PtMP end 
> users must compete for upload time of the AP, even
> smart polling systems do 
> not 100% solve this issue in an oversubscribed
> network, although helps 
> significantly. Backend prioiritization is not enough
> for upload direction, 
> if it gets choked at the AP before it reaches the
> prioritization.  If you 
> are going to do VOIP, you must be more conservative
> on your oversubscription 
> rate, and you will be fine.  On the download side it
> is not a problem as 
> traffic will reach the bandwdith
> management/prioiritization before it 
> reaches the AP.
> 
> With that said, Trango had been working on a VOIP
> prioritized firmware last 
> year for the 5580, I do not know if it was released
> or not.
> The second issue is whether you are designing your
> Trango network with 
> enough RF margin.  Never never use a bare 5580
> radio, its pointless.  The 
> Behive antennas are now shipping for the Trango 5580
> also!! They work great, 
> and bring the signal up to between 15-18 db antenna
> gain, depending on the 
> case.  They are great.
> 
> Lastly, the newest Trango Firmwares added some
> support to help with out of 
> order packets with its ARQ algorithym.  This seemed
> to help quite a bit to 
> optimize the VOIP performance when using ARQ.  We
> only run Trango with ARQ. 
> To valuable to turn off.  (With the exception of for
> 5830s).
> 
> The other decission you'll need to make is whetehr
> the over all design of 
> your network is good enough to be a VOIP provider.
> You will have to be the 
> judge of that.  Voice services are demanding, from
> an uptime SLA point of 
> view.  To handle this, we are adding more point to
> point links, more 
> licensed links, getting rid of backbone bottle
> necks, etc.
> 
> But Trango can handle VOIP just fine, as far as
> capabilty of a radio.  The 
> VOIP engineering is up to you, on the router behind
> and in front of them.
> 
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Doug Ratcliffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 2:23 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Trango & VOIP
> 
> 
> Just a quick question to the list, is Trango 5800
> series still a viable
> option for providing data & VOIP (IAX2) to
> customers?  I know a few ISPs out
> there who use it for that, but there's virtually no
> data at all on the
> Trango site regarding it.  I tried Canopy Adv. a few
> months back but was
> unhappy with the overall range & quality (2.5 miles
> LOS w/ a reflector, and
> 8 port ATA, the voice was choppy when I had all 8
> calls going).  I'm
> transmitting 1-3 miles over a salt water ¾ mile wide
> river.
> 
> 
> 
> I am just looking for some real world experiences
> out there.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
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