John Vogel,
Disagreeing with you does not make this a less-than-professional
discussion.  There was nothing in my post that was unprofessional or
uncivil; I simply disagree with the use of magnet-mounting equipment onto
towers.   If discussion on such stuff is unprofessional, then these lists
have no purpose.

You stated in your earlier post regarding magnets "I don't completely trust
them".  I don't either, so we are in agreement on the matter :).  Call it
unprofessional of me, but I tend to think that one should avoid using
mounting methods that one doesn't trust when one is dealing with big, heavy
chunks of metal and what-all hundreds of feet in the air.

As a general side note, any statement about mounting that involved some
statement of "I don't completely trust it" would get the same response from
me.  I don't like the idea of people mounting big heavy objects above my
head using methods they themselves have some doubt about.

Best practices does not necessarily entail commercially available solutions
or degreed engineering solutions.  Best practices are simply that--the
optimal way(s) of achieving a particular task.  "I don't completely trust"
methods are a long-ways off from that.

My point is not to increase regulation and such--quite the opposite.  My
point is that using practices that aren't completely trusted will, in the
end, lead to regulation.  As an industry, the wireless industry will have to
learn to regulate itself to a moderate degree or it will be regulated to a
heavy degree.  There's a lot that goes by everyone on that is not
necessarily as well done as it could be--which is understandable--business
may require concessions to some degree.  Nevertheless, better practices
should be used in places that are highly visible or potentially impact the
public community.

Does it need to involve a degreed engineer?  Of course not.  But,
considering that even you had your doubts, 200 feet above everyone in plain
sight of an entire town is a heck-of a place for a "we'll see" approach
which was the feeling I got from your original postings.

I don't think that engineering needs to take into accounts stupid misuse (ie
antennas being used as footholds).  Still, I don't see how a mounting
solution that you were almost surprised that there hadn't been slippage on a
year later is a good thing.

-Clint Ricker
Kentnis Technologies

ps.  I'm not against magnets in general.  Magnets on my fridge?  Guilty as
charged :)
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