Please expand upon this statement...

"

I simply asked WISPA to publish a position on illegal operation. That
doesn't mean to push it off on some code of ethics.

"

What kind of written statement would carry more weight than the code of
ethics?
Please describe how any such written statement would in fact carry more
weight.

John

Ralph wrote:
> Responses inline...
>
>   
>> Why should WISPA take any stance on what a wisp uses to conduct business?
>>     
>    Because you are our industry organization
>
>   
>> What business is it of others what anyone else does?
>>     
>    Anyone who wants to see the industry operate in a proper and legal
> manner.
>
>   
>> If the FCC thought what was going on was a terrible thing, they would
>>     
> have said so.
>    Good idea- let's ask them. I will draft my request this week.
>
>   
>> WISPA's efforts towards compliance may be slow, but there is now
>>     
> certified componentized systems in the pipeline from vendors who had
> none in the past.
>     Bravo to them! Who are they?
>
>   
>> Just this past week I was talking to an antenna manufacturer who told me
>>     
> his antennas were being certified  with new manufacturers that
> proviously were uncertified.
>      Ditto
>
>   
>> WISPA's goal is to see all wisps succeed. This division a couple of you
>>     
> are creating, is fairly destructive to any co-operative effort. When the
> lines get drawn and people placed on one side or the other, all we can
> end up with is some type of rivalry at best.
>
>      ??? Confused. Who do we want to see succeed? All WISPS, you say.
> Including the ones who operate illegaly?  The legal ones?
>      The ones we don't see because we look the other way?
>
>   
>> I can understand and agree with the entire certification issue and those
>>     
> opinions  expressed, but doing so in a manner that is destructive to
> some of our wisps is unacceptable.
>
>    Uhm.. Who's it destructive to?
>    Oh- that's right... The ones who operate illegally.
>
> I simply asked WISPA to publish a position on illegal operation. That
> doesn't mean to push it off on some code of ethics.
> This is our organization that is supposed to further our business. I'd hate
> to think we were afraid to stand up for what is right.
>
> There's no "sort-of pregnant", and there's no sort-of Part 15 compliant. You
> are or you aren't That is why this isn't debatable AT ALL!
>
> Who here is operating illegally? There's one message already posted from an
> operator who was bragging that he was.
> Who is operating legally?  Who will add their company to this list? 
>
> Legal  Illegal
> ---------------
>  x                 Brightlan
>  ?      ?          The rest of you 
>
>
>
> Ralph Fowler
> Brightlan LLC
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of George Rogato
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 3:18 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] In support of legal operation
>
>
> Why should WISPA take any stance on what a wisp uses to conduct business?
>
> What business is it of others what anyone else does?
>
> If the FCC thought what was going on was a terrible thing, they would
> have said so.
>
> WISPA's efforts towards compliance may be slow, but there is now
> certified componentized systems in the pipeline from vendors who had
> none in the past.
>
> Just this past week I was talking to an antenna manufacturer who told me
> his antennas were being certified  with new manufacturers that
> proviously were uncertified.
>
> WISPA's goal is to see all wisps succeed. This division a couple of you
> are creating, is fairly destructive to any co-operative effort. When the
> lines get drawn and people placed on one side or the other, all we can
> end up with is some type of rivalry at best.
>
>
> I can understand and agree with the entire certification issue and those
> opinions  expressed, but doing so in a manner that is destructive to
> some of our wisps is unacceptable.
>
> Lets look for the common good of all wisps.
>
> George
>
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