You are close. No one can MAKE new gear that's not DFS2. If you find old stock or used gear you can still install it. marlon
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Tetherow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Certifiable MikroTik? YES!! >I know we are already talking about breaking the rules, but even if it > was certified gear it is my understanding that you are not allowed to > hang new 5.3/5.4 gear that is not DFS2 capable. If you have the > equipment in stock it is allowed but all new gear must be DFS2. > > Personally I think this is where non-certified equipment is likely to > run into problems. While I don't think I have any radar around me to > kick in the DFS2 stuff I would be pretty leery of running non-cert gear > where you may interfere I think this would be a case of the FCC actively > persuing enforcement against non-certified equipment. > > Sam Tetherow > Sandhills Wireless > > Tom DeReggi wrote: >> But PLEASE don't sugget that!!! Remember backwards comaptibility, to in >> place networks. >> WISPs have tons of small mini networks running on 5.3Ghz. If one of my >> CPEs >> fry, it would be nice to replace it with a Certified unit, without >> changing >> the whole network to 5.8G, because the freq was locked out of new >> software. >> My point being, although pre-installed non-certified gear may not be >> legal, >> a WISPs right to use 5.3G with old rules, still is grandfathered for >> pre-existing systems and replacement radios for those systems. >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sam Tetherow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 6:10 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Certifiable MikroTik? YES!! >> >> >> >>> I'm pretty sure that they already are locked down by FCC domain. The >>> only place that I think it is possible to overdrive with stock ROS is in >>> the 5.1/5.3/5.4 and unless I am wrong all three of those bands are now >>> taboo without DFS2 certification so really all they need to do is limit >>> the frequency to the 2.4 and 5.8 range and everything would be good. >>> >>> Sam Tetherow >>> Sandhills Wireless >>> >>> >>> >>> Travis Johnson wrote: >>> >>>> Mac, >>>> >>>> Here is where it will get interesting... in the actual MT software. >>>> How are they going to "lock down" the software so the power outputs, >>>> channels, etc. are all within FCC guidelines? They are almost going to >>>> have to have a seperate MT version... which to me seems pretty >>>> unlikely. :( >>>> >>>> Travis >>>> Microserv >>>> >>>> Mac Dearman wrote: >>>> >>>>> David, >>>>> >>>>> What this means is that MT has put together a combination of >>>>> antennas >>>>> from different manufacturers connected to their hardware and had them >>>>> certified as "meeting the FCC criteria" thus giving them the ability >>>>> to >>>>> produce "exact" replicas of what they had certified. It does not mean >>>>> that >>>>> if we (wireless operators) slam the same gear (identical or not) >>>>> together >>>>> and hang on a tower - - its FCC Certified - - it's not. >>>>> >>>>> The big picture here is that their hardware (whatever routerboard(s) >>>>> they >>>>> used), radios, antennas, jumpers, pigtails, enclosure and choice of >>>>> antennas >>>>> are certified and will soon be on the market for resale with that >>>>> little >>>>> white sticker that seems so important! >>>>> >>>>> Mac >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> On >>>>>> Behalf Of David E. Smith >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:46 PM >>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Certifiable MikroTik? YES!! >>>>>> >>>>>> Mac Dearman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I thought I would share some of MikroTik's FCC certified gear with >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> the list. >>>>>> >>>>>> [ snip ] >>>>>> >>>>>> Okay, I'm gonna hate myself for asking this, because it means opening >>>>>> the dread Pandora's Box that is "FCC certification questions." >>>>>> >>>>>> The Routerboard 52 is "just" a mini-PCI card. Is this certification >>>>>> still valid when you use it as part of anything else? If so, with >>>>>> what? >>>>>> Can I connect it to a Routerboard 532 with Mikrotik's RouterOS >>>>>> software >>>>>> and legally use it? Can I put it in my laptop computer? Can I run it >>>>>> with Valemount's StarOS software, regardless of what antenna it's >>>>>> connected to? >>>>>> >>>>>> It's nice that this component is FCC-friendly, but you need a lot of >>>>>> components to get customers online. >>>>>> >>>>>> David Smith >>>>>> MVN.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> --------- >>>>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> --------- >>>>>> >>>>>> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>>> >>>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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