Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:32:26 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users
If the default for most routers is DHCP, then give it a private block
and then D-NAT all port 80 traffic to one of your servers and give them
a spash-page that says..."Your router lost its' configuration. Here are
instructions of how to reset it."
Don't forget, the default for most routers' wireless is wide-open. If
you lock them out by default...it is in both of your interests to get it
set back up and secure. I'll spend the extra 15-20 minutes to walk them
through a configuration so their neighbor has to pay for a connection.
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:31 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users
The biggest cost in using Static IP is after support. Thinks liek
Linksys
routers are notorious for loosing their configurations.
When teh configuration is lost, your on the phone for an hour walking
your
customer through how to enter the IP back in.
MOst commodity routers default to DHCP, so if it loses its config,
rebooting
will still get it a working IP with out a phone call for
reconfiguration.
However, we only use Public Static IPs. We typically charge more for our
service and justify the higher charge because of added benefits such as
Static IP benefits. We are willing to spend the time.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Langseth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users
There are things like looking at the customer base.
1) are they likely to need incoming connections ( This is mainly for
businesses )
2) are they likely to get a worm and have it start spamming ( I hate
trying to track down a spammy machine behind NAT ... its not hard just
annoying)
3) are they going to have problems with double NAT, the customers
router will be doing nat also. Certain system do not handle that very
nicely
Frankly I hate using Private IPs for customers at all, I also
strongly dislike not doing DHCP unless the customer is paying for that
static.
Static IP addressing is a PITA if you have to renumber, obivously
with privates that problem is largely gone.
Depending on where you are doing your NAT, I would suggest if you go
that route to do it at your Head End, not at your edge routers. That
way you can implement one of the common IDS/IPS systems to find
problem customers (virus, etc) .
Not doing DHCP, if you plan on being profitable, imo, is also a major
mistake. You will end up consuming 10+ minutes of your install techs
and CSRs time per install.
Ryan
On Jan 28, 2008, at 3:37 PM, Ugo Bellavance wrote:
Tom DeReggi wrote:
whether to give private or public address has nothing to do with
cost.
Oh, what are the thing to consider exactly?
Regards,
Ugo Bellavance
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