Eric, I'm interested in how you pulled off the D-NAT. Did you use a pix to do this? I have been researching ways to do this with a 2800 Cisco router. From what I can find I will need to do some aliasing. Can you provide me some more insight on how you were able to accomplish?
-Jaker > Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:32:26 -0500 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users > > If the default for most routers is DHCP, then give it a private block > and then D-NAT all port 80 traffic to one of your servers and give them > a spash-page that says..."Your router lost its' configuration. Here are > instructions of how to reset it." > > Don't forget, the default for most routers' wireless is wide-open. If > you lock them out by default...it is in both of your interests to get it > set back up and secure. I'll spend the extra 15-20 minutes to walk them > through a configuration so their neighbor has to pay for a connection. > > Eric > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:31 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users > > The biggest cost in using Static IP is after support. Thinks liek > Linksys > routers are notorious for loosing their configurations. > When teh configuration is lost, your on the phone for an hour walking > your > customer through how to enter the IP back in. > MOst commodity routers default to DHCP, so if it loses its config, > rebooting > will still get it a working IP with out a phone call for > reconfiguration. > However, we only use Public Static IPs. We typically charge more for our > > service and justify the higher charge because of added benefits such as > Static IP benefits. We are willing to spend the time. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ryan Langseth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:11 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users > > > > There are things like looking at the customer base. > > > > 1) are they likely to need incoming connections ( This is mainly for > > businesses ) > > 2) are they likely to get a worm and have it start spamming ( I hate > > trying to track down a spammy machine behind NAT ... its not hard just > > annoying) > > 3) are they going to have problems with double NAT, the customers > > router will be doing nat also. Certain system do not handle that very > > nicely > > > > Frankly I hate using Private IPs for customers at all, I also > > strongly dislike not doing DHCP unless the customer is paying for that > > static. > > Static IP addressing is a PITA if you have to renumber, obivously > > with privates that problem is largely gone. > > > > Depending on where you are doing your NAT, I would suggest if you go > > that route to do it at your Head End, not at your edge routers. That > > way you can implement one of the common IDS/IPS systems to find > > problem customers (virus, etc) . > > > > Not doing DHCP, if you plan on being profitable, imo, is also a major > > mistake. You will end up consuming 10+ minutes of your install techs > > and CSRs time per install. > > > > > > Ryan > > > > On Jan 28, 2008, at 3:37 PM, Ugo Bellavance wrote: > > > >> Tom DeReggi wrote: > >>> whether to give private or public address has nothing to do with > >>> cost. > >>> > >> > >> Oh, what are the thing to consider exactly? > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Ugo Bellavance > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > > WISPA Wants You! 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