Just a FYI, remember the red cross was down helping people who were
protesting that trail .  They were giving water, food, shelter, and medical
treatment to those who showed up to "PROTEST" .  I understand the right to
protest.  Great.  But why is the "Red Cross" helping these people.  Its like
them helping us cause we showed up at ISPCON!  

I know a number of people who donate Tens of Thousands per year, STOP
because of this.  

Dennis M. Burgess
Mikrotik Certified Consultant
Link Technologies, Inc., St. Louis, Missouri
--WISP/Network Support Services--
+1 314-686-1302


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:33 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tornado

Sometimes the Red Cross is not much better.....


On Feb 7, 2008, at 4:27 PM, Jeff Broadwick wrote:

> Without getting political...I'm not sure government is the right  
> vehicle for
> this sort of job...no matter who is running the show.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Jack Unger
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:00 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tornado
>
> Mark,
>
> Thanks for your report. I'm sorry that FEMA does not seem to be  
> focused on
> meeting the real needs that people have. On the other hand, I'm  
> sure that
> the FEMA lockdown did a good job of keeping Al Quida terrorists from
> potentially entering the disaster area to cause trouble.
>
> I hope that our new President (whoever that may be) will prove to  
> be a more
> compassionate leader who will be able to motivates FEMA (and for that
> mattter, our whole government) to once again focus on meeting the  
> real human
> needs that people have.
>
> jack
>
>
> Mark Williams wrote:
>> Myself and many others responded to Adkins, Arkansas yesterday...
>>
>> There was a great outpouring of volunteers, equipment, and supplies.
>> Quite literally dump trucks, tractor trailers, and many more pickups
>> w/ trailers hauling in various dozers, back hoes, materials, food /
>> water etc. for clean up and disaster assistance.
>>
>> The FEMA administrators had the place in TOTAL lock down. They would
>> NOT allow assistance efforts to happen.
>> A phrase was coined ... that "the government is more focused on
>> protecting its rights to be government, than it is on assisting the
>> coordination of REAL assistance and aid."
>>
>> Frankly, that statement sums up the debacle that is FEMA response.
>> They completely HALTED a 100% volunteer relief effort!
>>
>> Then they requested that what was REALLY needed was CAMPING GEAR.
>> I nearly lost it.
>>
>> For those who are not familiar, in Mena / Hope Arkansas there are
>> literally HUNDREDS OF SQUARE ACRES of FEMA trailers and RVs parked  
>> and
>> rotting to pieces thanks to FEMA's lame ass efforts to aid Katrina
>> victims. Logically, if they needed housing, it would have been as  
>> easy
>> as requesting the volunteers on hand to organize a convoy of  
>> trucks to
>> drive to Mena / Hope and pickup the trailers and deliver them to
>> Adkins / Clinton, etc. BUT ALAS, FEMA is not logical in their
>> response.
>>
>> I came away from the experience feeling REALLY good about the  
>> American
>> Spirit, it is clearly alive and well with in our people, but VERY
>> clearly not alive in our gov't.
>>
>> The long term effects of such high handedness by FEMA will be
>> disastrous, those who would typically respond will become complacent
>> and apathetic and will no longer respond, because after all the Govt
>> will handle it right? Sad times America, sad times.
>>
>>  Something needs to be done about this...
>>
>> God Bless those whom are in dire need and I pray that things change
>> rapidly. Unfortunately the media crews that were on location had no
>> interest in pointing out the FEMA blockade AGAINST relief efforts.
>>
>> -Mark Williams
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 09:30 -0600, Scottie Arnett wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Sorry to reply to my own post, but we service the Macon County  
>>> Tennessee
> area that was hardest hit. We have a POP there for dial-up, but  
> have not
> entered that market with our wireless yet.
>>>
>>> Lots of destruction. The tornado set down and traveled 25 miles  
>>> or more
> without ever lifting. Base ranged from 100 to 400 yards. Rated at  
> an F2 this
> morning by whoever rates them. Most power and telephones had been  
> restored
> as of late last night.
>>>
>>> Of little importance, none of our equipment was damaged. My heart  
>>> and
> prayers to the folks that lost homes and loved ones. I know this  
> type of
> tornadoes hit the mid west all the time, but we were not prepared  
> to see it
> hit as hard as it did in Tennessee. Never been that bad here before.
>>>
>>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>> From: "Scottie Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], WISPA General List
>>> <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Date:  Thu,  7 Feb 2008 09:22:08 -0600
>>>
>>>
>>>> Memphis Tennessee, Tuesday:
>>>> http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/feb/06/tornado- 
>>>> destroyed-t
>>>> wo-radio-towers-used-several-st/
>>>>
>>>> Main tower hub for communications knocked down.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Date:  Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:53:25 EST
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have a question for someone in the 'T' zones.
>>>>>
>>>>> You see the destructive force of them and how devastating they can
>>>>> be but I have never seen/heard of them wiping out a broadcasting
>>>>> tower or a multi story building.  Does this happen?
>>>>>
>>>>> Walter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Walter W.  Stumpf Jr.
>>>>> Xanadu Group Inc.
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