If you look up the spec for G.726 you will find it supercedes the 722.  That 
said, the 722 is the only ADPCM g code I would use.  726 has other things 
that I would not use.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Femtocells


> Polycom's "new" HD voice uses one of the G.722's.
>
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chuck McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 10:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Femtocells
>
>
>> Pretty sure G.722 is obsolete and has been rolled into G.726
>> Most GSM systems use a variant of CELP, ACELP I think.  G.729 I think.
>> All of the CELP methods suck when compared to G.711/22/26 PCM/ADPCM
>> methods.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 8:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Femtocells
>>
>>
>>>I know.  AT&T and T-Mobile use GSM (the GSM for wireless is the same as
>>>the
>>> GSM VoIP codec).  I dunno if the CDMA operators translate to anything in
>>> the
>>> VoIP world or not.
>>>
>>> I've tested with various codecs and I may use G.729 at some point, but
>>> for
>>> now I'm limiting myself to G.711 and G.722 once I get some business
>>> customers interested in it.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Bryan Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 8:58 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Femtocells
>>>
>>>
>>>> The cell carriers aren't using G711.  I haven't seen how much a UMA 
>>>> call
>>>> takes up, but I'd bet it's less than the 90K of G.711u.  UMA basically
>>>> encapsulates a GSM stream inside of an IPSEC tunnel.  EDGE traffic gets
>>>> up to 100K+ when surfing or downloading files, so I could see a data
>>>> stream over UMA going up to 150-200K.
>>>>
>>>> If you're talking EVDO data transfers via a femtocell, it could get up
>>>> to a couple megabits (whatever they're touting EVDO's capability as,
>>>> plus some overhead for security).
>>>>
>>>> -- Bryan
>>>>
>>>> Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>>> I dunno if I'd use anything less than G.711.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Chuck McCown - 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 11:08 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Femtocells
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> G.711 require 64kbps plus overhead.  Normally about 90 kbps.  But
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> lossless compression methods that can cut this in about half.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Marty Dougherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 8:24 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Femtocells
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anyone know how much BW a call will require?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Gino Villarini
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 5:57 AM
>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Femtocells
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmm I see better opportunity going to the Cellco directly and offer
>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> service, so that they do a  bundle to the end user... Internet -
>>>>>>> Femtocell
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And you make and arrangement with the cellco to deliver the traffic
>>>>>>> directly
>>>>>>> to them instead of going to the internet...Saving them some $$ On
>>>>>>> Internet
>>>>>>> Bandwidth and also providing a lower latency link to them!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ... maybe this is the next step beyond voip...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>>>>> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of George Rogato
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:30 AM
>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Femtocells
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> femtocells
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a great innovation that can help wisps gain market share.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With these femtocells, the cell phone works in the house so the
>>>>>>> consumer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> doesn't need to have an extra land line.
>>>>>>> The customer is probably paying 80.00 or so for their dsl - 
>>>>>>> telephone
>>>>>>> line.
>>>>>>> No land line needed for us wisps, the customer's 80.00 telco package
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>> in "play". Maybe they want to trade it in for a faster and probably
>>>>>>> lesser
>>>>>>> expensive internet connection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a good opportunity for us, or the cable company.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/wireless_show_femtocells;_ylt=ArOpXSwLh8fh4Jp
>>>>>>> nL.VHQpsjtBAF
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Verizon Wireless is joining Sprint Nextel Corp. in jumping on the
>>>>>>> latest
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> craze in the wireless world: little boxes called femtocells that
>>>>>>> boost
>>>>>>> cell-phone coverage in subscribers' homes.
>>>>>>>
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