And we only have 1000 telco customers.  The WISP is a far larger operation.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck McCown - 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] when does a startup WISP become a successful WISP?


> We hire the front office and accounting from another related company on a 
> service bureau basis.
>
> Our installers are our tower climbers. We hire a call center for tech 
> support.  We have two NOC guys on a full time basis.
> When I say started out like the rest of you, I started one customer at a 
> time.  Grass roots.
>
> Word of mouth advertising is what made us what we are.  The telco 
> relationship acutually hurts in the amount of extreme extra bookeeping we 
> go to to prove that we are not getting any advantage of the relationship.
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Travis Johnson
>  To: WISPA General List
>  Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 8:49 PM
>  Subject: Re: [WISPA] when does a startup WISP become a successful WISP?
>
>
>  Chuck,
>
>  You didn't take into account the receptionists, accounting people, 
> technical support (for email, DNS problems, etc.), supervisors, tower 
> climbers, etc.
>
>  Also, you didn't quite start out the same as the rest of us (because you 
> gave away your first install time by saying "SM"). Our first install was a 
> Lucent ISA 900mhz card running in a 386 PC with "BrouteIt" software in 
> 1997. ;)
>
>  Also, aren't you part of a telephone company?
>
>  Travis
>  Microserv
>
>  Chuck McCown - 2 wrote:
> I have one taking care of 600.  He works about 2 installs a day and 2
> troubles a day.  The growth is pretty flat in that town.  I have another
> area where there are a few more and we have 2 installers and the growth is
> pretty steady.  I have 6 installers taking care of 4000 in another area.
> They are hardly breaking a sweat.
>
> So, yeah I do have thousands.  And I compete with Qwest and Comcast 
> running
> full page ads in the paper mentioning us BY NAME.
>
> The question was when does a wisp become successful.  Successful to me 
> means
> about 25% ROI annually.  No debt.  50% market share.  Successful to you
> might mean that your WISP makes your mortgage payement for you as a part
> time venture.
>
> I started out the same as all of the rest of you  guys.  4 APs and a dozen
> SMs
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 8:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] when does a startup WISP become a successful WISP?
>
>
>  roflmao!!!!
>
> ONE person can't take care of 600 subs.  Might work ok if you've got
> thousands and you do 600 per sub.  In our case we have 120ish dialups, 60
> or
> 70 fiber to the home and over 400 wireless and I have a gal in the office
> and I hire part time help when I have installs stacked up.
>
> So we're more in line with one body per 200 subs.
>
> I figure that a guy that keeps his day job and runs a part time WISP will
> make more net income than most any of us ever will.  grin
>
> marlon
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chuck McCown - 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 6:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] when does a startup WISP become a successful WISP?
>
>
>    My rule of thumb is you need 600 subscribers per employee.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 7:17 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] when does a startup WISP become a successful WISP?
>
>
>      Whats the magic client number?
>
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
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