Hi,

I don't doubt that these two are the nicest people in the whole world. 
However, to put on the show that they are "serving the under served 
markets" is total BS. The markets they have deployed in already have 
cable, DSL, and at least 2 or 3 other WISP's. The under served 
communities in this area have less than 500 population. Why aren't they 
deploying there?

This is an obvious business "build and sell" operation. It would be 
impossible for them to ever make a profit. They are selling service for 
$23.95 for 1Mbps. The modem costs at least $400 and the AP per CPE is 
probably another $500. So they have $1,000 into each customer... that's 
roughly 40 months payback on just the equipment.

If we take the $40M and put it into a bank, you could easily make 5% 
interest, risk free. That's $2M per year profit. They will NEVER make 
that kind of profit. Again, they are in this to build it up, and then 
sell it off to Sprint or Clearwire. Let's stop with the "they are 
helping the smaller communities get online" stuff and say it like it is.

Travis
Microserv

Patrick Leary wrote:
> That is not going to happen Tom. Not by a long shot. Nothing
> fly-by-night about anything Kelley Dunne and Bill Wallace have ever
> done. These are class acts in every sense of the word. Very smart. Very
> talented. Very successful. Nothing left to chance. And damn nice people
> too that are a dream to work for. You can't believe how people clamor to
> work for them. I've known Kelley since 2002 and my personal regard for
> him is no less than I have for many of the WISP personalities I hold
> most dear. His commitment to underserved markets is second to none and
> goes back his entire career.
>
> By the way, his NOC is not far from one of your NoVA pops; it is right
> there in Ashburn near Dulles.
>
> Patrick Leary
> AVP, Market Development
> Alvarion, Inc.
> o: 650.314.2628
> c: 760.580.0080
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:46 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
>
> Another bankruptcy waiting to happen. 
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Travis Johnson 
>   To: WISPA General List 
>   Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:35 AM
>   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
>
>
>   Hi,
>
>   A new player just came to my area... BridgeMaxx (a Digital Bridge
> company). They are using Alvarion WiMax equipment. We have a test radio
> that we play with. We have their "up to 3meg premium service" and we
> barely get 1meg (any time we have tested over the last 3 months).
>
>   Here's the real kicker... they will have spent $40 million dollars to
> roll out 15 cities (this is direct from their GM to me). She was pretty
> proud of herself with that statement. So that's $2.6 million per city...
> and I'm talking some cities with 15,000 population (their biggest had
> 120,000).
>
>   Travis
>   Microserv
>
>   Chuck McCown - 2 wrote: 
> WiMAX was dead, is dead and will remain dead.  OK, not factually true
> but 
> emotionally true.  The cell companies will use  WiMax frequencies and 
> technologies but they will be a premium service and not well suited to 
> compete with us for point to multi point fixed wireless.  It will never
> live 
> up to the hype.
>
> All the cell data technologies will remain premium for folks on the go. 
> Cell does not want to squander the bandwidth to go after the value
> driven 
> customer that love us so much.  Cell is and will not be value leader for
>
> fixed wireless. technologies.
>
> 700 MHz is just not going to be used for anything other than more cell 
> spectrum.  The bands are narrow.  Good for phone and limited amounts of 
> data.  Great propagation. Problem with 700 MHz is that the size of the 
> antenna will be problematic for really small cell phones.  Less gain
> than 
> the current 900 and 1800 antennas for the same physical sizes.  Also
> there 
> will be a few years of implementation due to moving some existing TV 
> stations.  And some of them are not moving for some reason.  I don't
> know if 
> they get a special dispensation or what.
>
> All ILECs will continue to build out with fiber to the home.  That will 
> erode market share for WISPs in some areas.  This is a slow and capital 
> intensive process so no reason to get jumpy on that.  Plus many folks
> prefer 
> to deal with us vs a large public traded company.  Superior customer
> service 
> and support will always retain the customer.
>
> The cable companies will continue to shoot themselves in the foot and
> drop 
> the balls.  They are sooo freaked out by the erosion of customer base
> from 
> DirecTV that they are not managing the IP side of the house as well as
> they 
> could.  They will continue to get in a tighter and tighter cash
> situation 
> from satellite TV pressing from one side and the ILEC FTTH (and us) from
> the 
> other.
>
> In the meantime, we add VOIP, computer repair, data backup, web
> development, 
> OTA HDTV install and maint, etc as cross sell and up sell opportunities.
>
> All of us can offer triple play if we team up with DirecTV or OTA HDTV.
> OTA 
> HDTV is a wonderful opportunity for the next 18 months for the value 
> conscious customer.  Stock UHF TV antennas and converter boxes and help 
> folks get their analog TVs converted over.  Less work than a WISP
> install 
> and you will lock in the customer even more with superior customer
> service. 
> You can rent them the gear for $5/month and make it a low cost package.
>
> In 5 years hopefully your investment will be a cash cow and you will
> ride 
> this horse until it dies.  Perhaps other technologies will come along
> for us 
> to deploy but I see our segment strong for the next 5 years.  In 10
> years, 
> if we have not diversified, we will probably be hurting.
>
> Oh, and satellite ISP will never do much.  Pesky physics.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 6:44 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Future
>
>
>   What do you see as the future of our industry over the next 5 years?
>
> AT&T is expanding U-Verse (will this be available outside of town?)
> Verizon is expanding FiOS (will this be available outside of town?)
> Cable will be using DOCSIS 3
> 3G will gain more steam
> WiMAX will have larger and larger shares of the market
> 700 MHz will be in use possibly for data communications by the big guys
>
>
> My banker asked me, so I figured I'd see what other's opinions are.
>
> My thought is that the big guys mentioned above will continue to avoid
> the 
> niche that we currently serve and we'll be able to provide better
> services 
> with more spectrum (5.4 GHz, additional 2.5 GHz, 3.6 GHz, possibly TV 
> white spaces) and WiMAX.
>
>
> ----------
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
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