Its your right to free speech. However, its not your right to do it on their network. Because their network doesn't belong to the people. Thats the problem, we are allowing it to be "their" network, not a public one. The second one says allow the market pressure work it out, well, its no longer about the public anymore.
We are at scary times. We are hitting all the cross roads that will define whether the Internet ( or I should say "Free OPEN Communication") will continue to exist. Nobody cared when Free Speach allowed someone to run their mouth, when the speaker could never reach a significant audience. Its scary that the Internet enabled a single voice to reach millions. Think about how much money has been lost by product sellers because consumers could share the truth about the products with world, to influence buying decissions. What would it be worth to sellers to be able to put a gag order on the negative talk about them? There is big money, in provding the censored gateway to the consumer. People in t he advertsing business know that. Of course they free advertiser support networks, that they have been granted to control the advertising on. A network that possibly had the dream to reach every one in the city that everyone in the city likely would use. Fortunteately for consumers, the free models failed. :-) How about Verizons latest experiement on Email, using blacklist, to only allow Verizon Email domains sending across their DSL IPs. Or something like that. They do give the person the right to opt out, at the Blacklist site, But who can figure that out? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victoria Proffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2012 - The End of the Internet > Personally I think we are coming into some scary times. > > *The state of New York is now blocking Usenet Groups*: > > 6/10/08 > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9964895-38.html > >> New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo announced on Tuesday that Verizon >> Communications, Time Warner Cable, and Sprint would "shut down major >> sources >> of online child pornography." >> What Cuomo didn't say is that his agreement with broadband providers >> means >> that they will broadly curb customers' access to Usenet--the venerable >> pre-Web home of some 100,000 discussion groups, only a handful of which >> contain illegal material. > > > Verizon offers details of Usenet deletion: alt.* groups, others > gone6/12/08 > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967119-38.html > >> Verizon Communications confirmed on Thursday that it will stop offering >> its >> customers access to tens of thousands of Usenet discussion areas, >> including >> the alt.* groups that have been a free-flowing area for discussions for >> over >> two decades. > > > > Who wouldn't be against blocking child pornography sites? But I think > once > we start blocking sites we are opening a can of worms. The Internet is > about free speech in America, it is our inalienable right granted by our > Constitution. Other countries do not have these rights, such as China, > and > they regulate their Internet. > > Are the bigger ISPs (AT&T, Verizon, Time Warner, etc.) going to set policy > for the Internet? Are these monopolised ISPs going to be the Internet > police? > > If so, how does that effect the smaller ISP's, such as myself? > > > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Martha Huizenga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Well, I can't believe this would actually happen. We certainly aren't >> going to charge for visiting sites on a per site basis. Are you? With >> all the talks from the FCC about getting access to the underserved and >> unserved areas of the nation, I can't believe they would let this happen >> either. I googled this and saw items referring to all ISPs are in talks >> with content providers. Maybe the big guys, but not all ISPs are talking >> about charging for content. >> >> If you read the links to the Telus products they are for mobile Internet >> on your cell phone, not Internet on your computer. These are really two >> different things. >> >> just my two cents.....I'd like to hear what others have found. >> >> Martha Huizenga >> DC Access, LLC >> >> >> Victoria Proffer wrote: >> > Could this ever happen? >> > http://ipower.ning.com/netneutrality2 >> > >> > Of my almost 17 years as an ISP, I find it hard to believe. >> > How could the LECs possibly block all the sites? >> > If this is true, what could we do to stop it? >> > >> > Thanks for your thoughts. >> > >> > Victoria Proffer >> > CEO >> > St. Louis Broadband >> > Visit us @ >> > www.StLBroadband.com >> > 314-974-5600 >> > >> > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > WISPA Wants You! 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