Certainly it can. Since Mikrotik and ImageStream routers support the WISPA CALEA standard, and every network should be routed... wala!
---------- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - TradeAssociationWas:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking >I still don't get it. I really don't. > > CALEA was designed for a telco network. It is simply NOT APPLICABLE in > design or function to a multi-homed IP network. > > I keep hearing how so much time and effort was put into this... But I can > explain in plain, clear, and unmistakeable language to any reasonably > intelligent person how it is simply not "the" way to intercept IP > communications. Yet nobody has claimed they attempted to even explain > this, nor even object, much less state "this is impossible" in a properly > designed wireless IP network. Didn't anyone even try? It appears not. > > Rather, it looks to me like all WISPA did was get some lubrication for the > square peg to go into the round hole. > > Obligation to help law enforcement? This is stated up front, in my sales > contract, LONG BEFORE CALEA WAS EVER HEARD OF, that I will assist law > enforcement any way I can in criminal investigation. > > No matter how many times you try to change the subject to "you need to > help > law enforcment", which has NEVER been the issue, it still fails to address > the fact that no properly designed and operating wireless network can be > CALEA compliant. > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > <insert witty tagline here> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 11:10 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade > AssociationWas:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking > > >> We have had the CALEA pain in the telco side for a decade. Believe me, >> it >> was much more expensive to become compliant if you were a LEC. Fact of >> the >> matter is that the internet is becoming the defacto alternate PSTN >> network >> and when you are a public utility you become beholden to the public you >> serve and the greater good. >> >> If a bad guy is hiding behind your network, being a good corporate >> citizen >> of this nation, it is your duty to help law enforcement do their job. >> Telcos did not like CALEA any more than the ISPs. Actually, the FBI and >> CALEA vendors are the only ones that liked CALEA. >> >> An analogy would be, if we discovered a way to transport water over the >> internet, and people started using IP water than the city water lines, >> don't >> you think that the health department ought to then become interested in >> the >> quality of the water you sell? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 2:04 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was: >>> Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking >>> >>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> <insert witty tagline here> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Frank Muto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:06 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was: Report: >>> FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking >>> >>> >>>> You don't get it. CALEA was a good thing for WISPA and its members. >>> >>> No, of course I don't get "it". This has got to be one of the dumbest >>> thing I have ever heard in my life. I can find NO benefit to it of ANY >>> kind. Nor has anyone I know of explained a single "benefit", ever. It >>> is >>> a mandate on how a network must function, a limitation to equipment, >>> software, topology, and redundancy, and an absurd notion in the first >>> place. >>> >>> It is a direct requirement to dumb-down and overbuild bandwidth, with NO >>> return of ANY kind, financial or otherwise. >>> >>> "A good thing?" Obviously, you're in the camp that expecting to get >>> money >>> ripped out of someone else's pockets and headed your way. Or, just try >>> to >>> explain it. Nobody has till now. They make the statement, but the >>> logic >>> used is an insult to our intelligence. >>> >>> >>> You need to understand that you pick the battles you feel >>>> you can win. WISPA has gained a good amount of respect from the FCC, >>>> but >>>> this is only one of many battle fronts WISP's are up >>>> against. >>> >>> "Gained respect"? Please. This is imaginary nonsense. We're >>> forgotten >>> faster than styrofoam cup in a hurricane. We haven't got the millions >>> to >>> bribe them with, so there is no amount of "positive" influence we can >>> have. >>> >>>> >>>> The FIGHT for US battle cry you comment on takes money, time and a good >>>> amount off leg work to make things work. >>> >>> No kidding. I agree entirely. But when people start the comments >>> like >>> "CALEA is good for us", whatever agenda they have in mind is NOT the >>> well >>> being of WISP's, but some kind of other agenda. >>> >>> You are >>>> dealing with a bureau that has many different levels of staffing, it >>>> can >>>> take weeks to know who to talk to, when and if they >>>> will talk to you, will it be ex-parte or not, etc, etc, etc. >>> >>> Like any other organization. >>> >>>> >>>> Understand that the RBOCs and other companies are clamoring for the >>>> eyes >>>> and ears of those a the FCC, as WISPs need to get >>>> to.The fight is not only on the federal level, but also at the state >>>> and >>>> local levels as well. >>> >>> I'm still not sure exactly what your point is here. I understand the >>> need >>> to talk to all levels of government, but if we're going to take the >>> mindset >>> that all mandates and rules are Holy and Untouchable, then what is the >>> point? 95% of what WISPA should be doing should be DEFENSIVE from an >>> overreaching government agency of some kind. And it seems the present >>> leadership has absolutely NO interest in defense at all, just playing >>> "looky, I got to talk to the Holy Ones in DC" game, some kind of hat in >>> hand >>> >>> subservence... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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