Then I agree.

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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Muto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association 
Was:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking


>I meant to say the WORK WISPA did with CALEA was a good thing, not that 
>CALEA was a good thing for WISPA.
>
>
> Frank
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was: 
> Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking
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>>I see the value in reporting.  I see the value in what WISPA did after 
>>CALEA
>> was a requirement.  I don't see the value in CALEA itself.
>>
>>
>> ----------
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Frank Muto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was: Report:
>> FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking
>>
>>
>>> You don't get it. CALEA was a good thing for WISPA and its members. You
>>> need to understand that you pick the battles you feel
>>> you can win. WISPA has gained a good amount of respect from the FCC, but
>>> this is only one of many battle fronts WISP's are up
>>> against.
>>>
>>> The FIGHT for US battle cry you comment on takes money, time and a good
>>> amount off leg work to make things work. You are
>>> dealing with a bureau that has many different levels of staffing, it can
>>> take weeks to know who to talk to, when and if they
>>> will talk to you, will it be ex-parte or not, etc, etc, etc.
>>>
>>> Understand that the RBOCs and other companies are clamoring for the eyes
>>> and ears of those a the FCC, as WISPs need to get
>>> to.The fight is not only on the federal level, but also at the state and
>>> local levels as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 6:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was: Report: FCC
>>> toPunishComcast Over Web Blocking
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>>>
>>>>
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> <insert witty tagline here>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Frank Muto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:53 AM
>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was: Report: FCC to
>>>> PunishComcast Over Web Blocking
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I will got out here and say it. There is NO excuse not to support 
>>>>> WISPA,
>>>>> NONE! So for all of you on this general list not
>>>>> supporting WISPA, you are losing out on an opportunity to make your
>>>>> livelihood last and support your families for years to
>>>>> come. $25 a month is a small price to pay for some representation in a
>>>>> industry that is supporting yourself and families. I
>>>>> am sure you can find that much on wasted expenses every month.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, there is.   Until the current leadership gets their head out of 
>>>> the
>>>> sand and starts fighting FOR US, instead of playing the FCC's patsy, I
>>>> will
>>>> not give them another dollar.
>>>>
>>>> When the boys came back from DC and posting to the lists that "CALEA" 
>>>> and
>>>> the reporting mandates were good things, I could no longer in good
>>>> conscience give them another dollar to use to use AGAINST US. 
>>>> Whatever
>>>> they did or said in DC on that topic, IN NO WAY REPRESENTED ME OR THE
>>>> INTERESTS OF MY BUSINESS OR MY FUTURE.
>>>>
>>>> When I saw certain WISPA leadership glom onto the idea of a CALEA 
>>>> mandate
>>>> being an opportunity to extract more money and blackmail more
>>>> memberships, I
>>>> was immediately convinced that they were in it FOR THEM, and not us. 
>>>> I
>>>> even saw posting by someone who said that CALEA would be good for 
>>>> WISPA.
>>>> Not good for the members = good for WISPA?
>>>>
>>>> Hell NO!  I will not play that game.
>>>>
>>>> We got local, state and federal governemnt playing that game, why would 
>>>> I
>>>> voluntarily add WISPA to it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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