Since there's only a couple home brew systems left, I'm going to perhaps 
incorrectly assume Mikrotik.  Mikrotik itself has a CALEA sniffer, so you 
could even do it on the CPE, in software, no extra hardware required.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


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> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> <insert witty tagline here>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Forrest W Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 10:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade
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>
>> Are you deliberately being obtuse?   Or at least acting obtuse?
>
> Not at all.
>
>>
>> Any competent network engineer is capable of inserting a packet sniffer
>> at the AP site.
>
> Really?   What crack you been sniffing, Forrest?
>
> Especially one who is capable of engineering a
>> "properly engineered network", as you obviously know so much about.
>> Most of the time it involves a hub (or a managed switch capable of
>> mirroring a port - but a dumb ethernet switch) placed between the AP and
>> the rest of the network.
>
> Can't be done.  In no place on my network does the data flow through
> ethernet.  All routing is done within a single cpu board between an array 
> of
> wireless interfaces.  Most places have no capacity to even power a hub or
> switch and CERTAINLY no physical place to put it.
>
>   If you are using the same physical hardware
>> for the AP and the BH, you may need to separate these functions out into
>> two separate pieces of hardware so you can sniff the traffic between
>> them - but like I said, any decent network engineer should be able to
>> understand the concepts of how to make this work.
>
> << BANGS HEAD ON DESK >>   NO!
>
> This is not wanted, practical, or possible for ANY part of my network.
> Certainly, it cannot be done "CALEA compliant".   I refer to the previous
> post I made on the topic... the long one.
>
>>
>> -forrest
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> I have a better idea.   Explain how you do that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Forrest W Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 5:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade
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>>>
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No matter how many times you try to change the subject to "you need to
>>>>> help
>>>>> law enforcment", which has NEVER been the issue, it still fails to
>>>>> address
>>>>> the fact that no properly designed and operating wireless network can
>>>>> be
>>>>> CALEA compliant.
>>>>>
>>>> Explain how your network is designed such that you can't go to an AP
>>>> site and insert a packet sniffer and gather all of the internet traffic
>>>> for a specific customer attached to that AP - excluding traffic between
>>>> two customers on the same AP.
>>>>
>>>> That is all that is required for CALEA compliance, thanks to WISPA.
>>>>
>>>> -forrest
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