I agree with you. Being a small WISP, we really took a risk investing in RedMax gear for the simple fact that we are so rural. Selling Business Internet and Voip bundles with a small PBX phone system is the only way we're really going to see a decent return on this system in the near future. The equipment is incredible. I can't complain at all about the equipment or the support, and it is definitely Carrier Grade. I just hope at some point the equipment costs go down for us all to enjoy the benefits of WiMax.
Having said that, I hope the equipment stays just expensive enough to keep the spectrum clean, if you know what I mean. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:49 PM, 3-dB Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree 100%... every WISP should really look at 3.65. The problem is the > base station cost... I don't know many small WISP's that will be able to > afford a 10k base station. Many have a hard time deploying say Canopy AP's > that cost $1200 or so. > > My point is, unlike Canopy, Tranzeo, Ubquity, Trango, etc. etc. the > equipment is not being built for the WISP. WISP's should be on board with > it, but don't confuse that with the equipment being built and marketed for > the average WISP (at least as what I think the average WISP is). > > Daniel White > 3-dB Networks > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of John Rock > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:37 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field > > I would disagree. WiMAX should be a goal for most WISPs to get into their > networks over the next 1-3 years. > Why??? Roaming!!! It will be the real deal and the WISP market, if they do > the right things, will be able to setup roaming agreements to exist with > each other all over the USA. > CPE will be available in all sorts of devices between 2.3 and 3.8 GHz and > yes 3.65 falls in that window. Device frequency scanning will be dictated > by > > availabilty. So if the WISP Market, small and large, build compatable 3.65 > networks with viable roaming agreements with the right service flows > everyone could be happy. Keep in mind the right things need to fall in > place > > for this to happen. > > Hurdles... > -CPE that really are interoperable and in many types of devices. > -Base Station RF in a cellular sence. That equals build outs with > competitive priced Base stations in mobile mind set. > -Base stations from different manufactureers that can GPS sync with each > other so UL/DL ratios can co exist in a given area. To my knowledge this > does not exist yet but would be critical to help with interference in the > 3.65 GHz band. The WiMAX forum needs to make sure this does exist between > base stations along with the interoperability standards they are > developing. > > The GPS peice may exist but I have yet to see in in the standerds. > > Thanks, > > John Rock > Wireless Connections > Director of Operations - Senior Engineer > ACCessing the Future Today!! > ofc. 419.660.6100 > cell 419-706-7356 > fax 419-668-4077 > http://www.wirelessconnections.net > This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential > and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If > you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, > copying > > or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If > you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by > reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "3-dB Networks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:30 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field > > > > Mike I hate to say it but I don't think WiMax is intended for the average > > WISP... lots of carrier grade functionality that the WISP market doesn't > > need, but really drives up the price (I think its supposed to do 6 9's > for > > availability?) > > > > It sucks that its going to limit the WISP's with small customers bases > > > > Daniel White > > 3-dB Networks > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:36 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field > > > > Which is not your average WISP... > > > > > > ---------- > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jeff Booher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:42 PM > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field > > > > > >> Brian, > >> > >> > >> Depends on many factors. The price point of 10k per sector is usually > >> assuming you are talking about purchasing 1-6 sectors. Most of the MFR's > >> are > >> able to and willing to come down in price considerably when frame orders > >> or > >> larger deployments are taken into consideration. > >> > >> > >> Best Regards, > >> > >> > >> Jeff Booher > >> > >> Channel Manager, North America > >> www.apertonet.com <http://www.apertonet.com/> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> 24/7: 206-455-4950 > >> > >> This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or > >> work > >> product for the sole use of the intended recipient. 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Signal held steady at 88db on > >> a > >> > >> 1-story house. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Mike Cowan > >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Many of you have known me for years, some wish they didn't :-). I am > >> > >> the doubting Thomas type and have to test myself before I recommend > >> > >> products to a client. Lets just say that Thomas was satisfied. 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