Mike, Thanks for the response. Again, Hutton/Electrocom has been a great distributor to work with. .
I'll just add one more point about the Pac DP product. We forsee a huge future demand for the 2ft Dual Pol Wide Band 5.8G Parabolic. In the past, it was all we used, sense we had standardized our PTP deployments on Trango Atlas which are DP. But now, DP is not just a Trango thing. Both Mikrotik and StarOS, now support two radio cards for their Full Duplex modes, and/or Routing in one pol out the other. Some peoiple are also taking advantage of A/B ports on a single radio for diversity, although the FD is more common. These needs are becomming more and more necessary now that WISPS are growing and need their backhauls to pass more speed. And using a 40Mhz contiguous channel is very difficult to find free spectrum on, and usually not realistic. There are challenges, in noise rejection with a dual pol feed, but the advantages of having both links on one antenna are huge (space, colo costs, etc). Pac Wireless lowered the price of this DP product to a level where it a no brainer for a WISP to want to buy/stock EVERY dish as DP capable, even if they don't plan to use it. I personally think it was the #1 product of the year, and should earn Pac Wireless the title. We also see a need for the feeds, because WISPs have lots in the field already, and its logical they may upgrade their installed dishes at some point. Some of the older 2ft dishes, need a small nick cut out to allow the new HDD feeds to slide in, but a dremel can make it about 1 minute easilly. 2ft dishes are the most common jsut because they are so easy to work with, and Landlords never complain about the size. We found the Dishes are often needed even on shorter links, with OFDM products, because of noise avoidance. The Wide Band model HDDA5W is also important. Full Duplex often requires the spectrum to be 60-80mhz or so appart, to get adeqaute isolation between the Pols. So more often than not, even when using 20mhz channels, the links are a combination of two spectrum ranges. For example using channel 5.3G, 5.4G one way and 5.8G band the other. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Brownson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who stocks PacW DP feeds Tom, Thanks for the good word. On the web site, if it says call for availability it means there are none in stock and the lead time has not been entered for that product. So you're right to think that it's not going to ship the next day. But I'll pass your note on to the product manager for Pac and see about uping the levels for the 29DP. I thought it was normally a stock item. But sometimes we run out before the next shipment comes in. Again I'll check. Thanks. Mike B ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wed 9/24/2008 2:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who stocks PacW DP feeds Well... I've always been a big fan of Hutton/Electrocom, and they do sell them, and have a great price on the feeds. Stocking of DP products is a different story. Unfortunteately, the majority of the time, when I need them , usually the last minute :-), the parts I need are usually "check for availabilty". :-( That makes it hard to place an order at 8pm online, when I finally get time, and get a sense of whether the product will arrive on time for my need. So I was just looking for additional options. I was also wondering if Pac's model is now just for vendors to have Pac just Drop ship, and vendors generally not planning on stocking, which would also be OK. On an ongoing basis, I just don't want to have to wait for a product to be shipped to the distributor, and then from distributor to me, as that duplicates shipping costs and/or slows delivery so the distributor can coordinate lower cost bulk shipping methods to get it to them first. Its worse when I'm east coast, and distributor is west coast. I believe in distribution, when distributors are willing to stock the merchandise regularly. But in the past, very few vendors have been willing to stock DP products. I'm concerned on what availabilty will be in the future also. For small radios, and stuff, the arguement is always.... The WISP should buy larger quantities and stiock more inventory. But Parabolics are large antennas, and take up a lot of space, so generally don't like to stock a lot of them in our "office" environment. I'd rather overnight a feed, or buy the full dish more locally. Now that Pac is refusing to fill orders direct, for these little things, I hope distributors will pick up the slack, so we don't have to wait 2 weeks, everytime we want a DP antenna. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "3-dB Networks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who stocks PacW DP feeds > Tom, > > Hutton carries them... I can check stock for you in a few hours if you > like > > Daniel White > 3-dB Networks > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:21 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Who stocks PacW DP feeds > > So... Now that PacWireless's (Laird) online store is no more, and they are > now more reliant on their Distribution partners.... > > Who stocks the 29db DP Feeds and dishes? 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