Directional antennas and other interference-avoidance techniques will 
help but for mass-market use (which is how the vendors visualize the 
TVWS) I suspect that it's going to be a long time before 1st adjacent 
channel use will be practical. Still, gaining access to most of the 
non-1st adjacent channels white space is still a big "win" for the WISP 
industry.

Chuck McCown wrote:
> Hopefully forward error correction and directional antennas will make it 
> possible.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces
>
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>   
>> Anything's possible but look at the shape of a DTV waveform and compare
>> it to the shape of an OFDM broadband wireless signal. Now look at the
>> space between those two waveforms if they are on adjacent channels. It's
>> kind of like putting two bricks side by side with no space in between.
>> Who is going to interfere with who the most? Looks like the DTV signals
>> will interfere with our AP receivers AND our CPE transmitters will
>> interfere with nearby television receivers. Of course, I could be
>> wrong.... What's your take on it?
>>
>> Chuck McCown wrote:
>>     
>>> Perhaps once TVWS gets used and it proves a success, then they will open 
>>> up
>>> adjacent channels.
>>> Once they do that there will be holes everywhere.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:58 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Joe,
>>>>
>>>> The White Spaces are the unused television channels. In most major metro
>>>> areas, many of the channels are in use by television broadcasters and
>>>> other licensed users. Outside of major metro areas, there will be unused
>>>> channels available that you can use. In general, the more rural you are,
>>>> the more channels will be available.
>>>>
>>>> jack
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe Laura wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Am I hearing correctly that this new space can only be utilized in 
>>>>> rural
>>>>> areas? Not for Citys like New Orleans? TIA
>>>>> Joe Laura
>>>>> Superior Alarm/Wireless
>>>>> New Orleans,La.
>>>>> www.superior1.com
>>>>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>   From: Blair Davis
>>>>>   To: WISPA General List
>>>>>   Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:47 PM
>>>>>   Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   Ubquity?  Some kind of mini-pci card?
>>>>>
>>>>>   Charles Wyble wrote:
>>>>> Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>>>   Now that TV whitespaces have been approved for our use, let's hear 
>>>>> from
>>>>> the vendors.  When, how much, and what will you do with it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed!
>>>>>
>>>>> Who would the likely vendors in this space be?
>>>>>
>>>>> Should we put an RFP together and send it around?  I sure want answers
>>>>> to your questions as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   Ladies and gents:  I haven't read all of the published information 
>>>>> yet,
>>>>> but this is the second greatest battle we have come across (second only
>>>>> to having unlicensed available in the first place) and we have won!
>>>>> Congrats.  It appears the portable devices are held to 100 mw of power,
>>>>> while we have 4 watts (which is pretty much what we have everywhere
>>>>> else).  Four watts at these frequencies will carry!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep!
>>>>>
>>>>>
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