And those are available already. the CATV industry has had them, in
75ohm, for a long time. One thing I really hope for this gear is that the vendors decide to make 75ohm gear. There is a HUGE amount of stuff already out there that we can use if they do. Jack Unger wrote: That's a very good idea on the transmit side. Remember that our AP receivers will also need a VERY sharp filter ($$$) to keep the adjacent channel TV signal from overloading it and reducing the reception range to ****. jackChuck McCown - 3 wrote:For adjacent channel use, we don't have to use a 6 MHz channel. We could use 5 or 4 or whatever it takes to make it work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV WhitespacesDirectional antennas and other interference-avoidance techniques will help but for mass-market use (which is how the vendors visualize the TVWS) I suspect that it's going to be a long time before 1st adjacent channel use will be practical. Still, gaining access to most of the non-1st adjacent channels white space is still a big "win" for the WISP industry. Chuck McCown wrote:Hopefully forward error correction and directional antennas will make it possible. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV WhitespacesAnything's possible but look at the shape of a DTV waveform and compare it to the shape of an OFDM broadband wireless signal. Now look at the space between those two waveforms if they are on adjacent channels. It's kind of like putting two bricks side by side with no space in between. Who is going to interfere with who the most? Looks like the DTV signals will interfere with our AP receivers AND our CPE transmitters will interfere with nearby television receivers. Of course, I could be wrong.... What's your take on it? Chuck McCown wrote:Perhaps once TVWS gets used and it proves a success, then they will open up adjacent channels. Once they do that there will be holes everywhere. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV WhitespacesJoe, The White Spaces are the unused television channels. In most major metro areas, many of the channels are in use by television broadcasters and other licensed users. Outside of major metro areas, there will be unused channels available that you can use. In general, the more rural you are, the more channels will be available. jack Joe Laura wrote:Am I hearing correctly that this new space can only be utilized in rural areas? Not for Citys like New Orleans? TIA Joe Laura Superior Alarm/Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Blair Davis To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces Ubquity? Some kind of mini-pci card? Charles Wyble wrote: Mike Hammett wrote: Now that TV whitespaces have been approved for our use, let's hear from the vendors. When, how much, and what will you do with it? Indeed! Who would the likely vendors in this space be? Should we put an RFP together and send it around? I sure want answers to your questions as well. Ladies and gents: I haven't read all of the published information yet, but this is the second greatest battle we have come across (second only to having unlicensed available in the first place) and we have won! Congrats. It appears the portable devices are held to 100 mw of power, while we have 4 watts (which is pretty much what we have everywhere else). Four watts at these frequencies will carry! Yep! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! 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