Travis, Im a little late responding to this thread, but I will put my two cents in. Currently there are products on the market that are shipping that deliver 15-20mb per AP but you wont find much in the wimax arena that will ever deliver more than 50 mb, due to the need to use a small channel width, even with 2X2 mimo. That being said, it doesnt mean that Wimax products are not at a level where you cannot support 250 subscribers per sector. On a legacy wifi product such as VL, Trango, etc the products do not have the benefits of the Wimax mac. At any rate, what you are talking about is the availablity of a Pico product, not a micro or macro. Companies like ours are working on PICO products but expect most to deliver Pico in 802.16e, and later on in the next year and a half or so. - Jeff Booher Director of Sales, North America www.apertonet.com <http://www.apertonet.com/> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7: 206-455-4950 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies.
_____ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] WiMax delays? I don't think this is entirely true. For us, it becomes a "value" decision. If there was an AP that would deliver 100Mbps and could support 1000 subscribers, I would be willing to pay $10,000+ for it today. There is a real "gap" in the products that are available on the market: At the bottom = Linksys Next = Mikrotik Next = Trango, Canopy, etc <gap> Top = licensed Alvarion, Redline, etc. This is the market that is not being served. There are plenty of backhaul solutions, router solutions, etc. but the very last mile AP/CPE for the "higher end" is what is missing. I'm not interested in paying $50,000 per base station (Alvarion WiMax), but I don't want to pay $10,000 for a solution that uses an entire band (Canopy 5700 for example) and only delivers 84Mbps of total capacity (when even lower end products can deliver 2x or 3x that in the same spectrum). So, again, why hasn't there been an evolution of products the last 2-3 years? Did everyone stop normal R&D to focus on WiMax? Travis Microserv Butch Evans wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Mike Hammett wrote: Where has the innovation in the last few years gone?</rant> How many in this industry bitch and moan over the cost of gear? How many would purchase an AP at under $200 and STILL think that's too high? How many in this industry are willing to purchase something JUST BECAUSE IT IS CHEAPER? Look at how many people in this industry are using DSL as a transport to the Internet. Answer THOSE questions and you'll begin the see the answer to YOUR question. The problem isn't just "us". The "big boys" have been busy trying to drive pricing levels down in an attempt to "buy the market". And too many of "us" have decided that we have to compete on price alone, so we found ways to cut cost by buying cheaper gear (there are 2 WISPs within a 30 minute drive of my house that are selling service using Linksys gear for APs). There is at least 3 WISPs whose service would cover my house that have DSL for their internet connection. I'm not condemming the practice as much as I am attempting to illustrate WHY the innovation is leaving the industry. It is NOT gone. It just doesn't exist in the price range that MOST people are willing to pay (WISPs, that is). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
