If only someone wanted to start a business and negotiate these contracts for wisps.  One guy could run this business, know all the tower guys and help us get on these towers.  I would gladly pay someone to do this dirty work.

Brian

Tom DeReggi wrote:
I gotta agree with Blake. Many of the big tower companies are good to WISPs, 
once they know you, and understand your business. Its just a long road, 
getting to that stage.  Just like any business, sales reps want to feel out 
the opportunity with a client, and start out high, with the add-on 
fees,without discounting. What I find is that, there is a minimum dollar 
amount to make it worth their time to talk to you. Think about it, if they 
take ATT's call, they have the potential to sell 100s of towers and antennas 
colos. They take your call, and they have limited potential to measilly few 
hundred bucks, and its the same amount of work to write up the contracts. I 
believe Eje' situation was a side effect of not asking to colocate enough 
antennas in teh transaction. $300/1 antenna is a lot, but its feasible that 
the same tower company might have given him 5-8 antennas for $500, if he 
pushed for it.  Most tower's have free empty space, and the candidates to 
buy it are shrinking.
ONce they understand you business model, and understand its not cost 
justified for you to pay carrier price, they'll usually come down to 
something fair.

But I think the same way... Its a hassle dealing wit htower companies, jsut 
because of all the legal details and time involved. I'd hardly justify 
spending the negotiating time myself, for just an Omni install.

If you want a pack of gum, you don't go to the Hechts at the mall. Its to 
time consuming to get in and out of there. Instead, you go to the local 7 
eleven. When you want to scale an operation and install a lot of antennas, 
you NEED the tower companys. And its worth paying them for the benefits it 
offers.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blake Bowers" <bbow...@mozarks.com>
To: <e...@wisp-router.com>; "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers


  
Hmmm

I know LOTS of tower companies that although their main
emphasis is cellular, they are very good to WISPS and others.

I have WISPS paying anywhere between $25.00 a month
to 500 a month, depending on location, height, etc.

And yes, my MAIN emphasis is on Cellular.  I have towers
in 18 states.

I guess I am ripping of those WISPS.


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <e...@wisp-router.com>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers


    
Most tower companies that deal with cell carrier are rip offs. One 
company
I talked with wanted a minimum 500/mo and a 2k engineering fee. All I
wanted was a omni around 150ft up in their 180ft tower and a small
backhaul panel that could be at 80ft (18"x18" panel).

I offered $300 a month that is more then $1/ft per antenna and asked for 
a
waiver or reduction of the engineering fee. No go. Other companies same
thing. So don't even bother with those companies any longer rather deal
with farmers and private tower owners.

/Eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: "Eric Rogers" <ecrog...@precisionds.com>

Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:04:31
To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers


I priced space for 3 sectors and 2 backhauls.  They wanted $1600/mo.  I
built my own tower next to it... ;)

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:34 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

I would only assume they are, but has anyone worked with them before?


-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jerry Richardson" <jrichard...@aircloud.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:23 AM
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

      
No,
I just thought it was interesting that all of their tower locations
        
are
      
listed.

I did not know they are as bad or worse than American Tower.



__________________________________
Jerry Richardson
airCloud Communications

-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
        
On
      
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:26 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers

Ever price them?
-RickG

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Jerry Richardson
<jrichard...@aircloud.com> wrote:
        
FYI <http://www.att.com/towers>

www.att.com/towers



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