We bought gas generators.  Portable, briggs engines, gas can be found any
where any time.  Two circuits on them - manual says 42 amps total but we
don't even come close.

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Zachery Wolfinger <
zwolfin...@cyberlinktech.com> wrote:

> One thing to consider with natural gas generators for NOCs is that in an
> emergency, it's not unheard of for the city/fire department to cut both
> electric and gas.  We ran into CLECS that had this happen to them when I
> was
> spec'ing out a new CO for a telco I used to work for.
>
> Thank you,
> Zak Wolfinger ­ IT Director
> Cyberlink Technologies, Inc.
> 888-293-3693 Ext 4357
>
>
> > From: Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
> > Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> > Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:11:09 -0600
> > To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] propane generators?
> >
> > We have a customer that has a natural gas connection at his NOC to the
> > gas co.  Course, it was great for them to put an natural gas generator.
> > WHen they don't need it, they don't store anything, but when they do,
> > let it run!  Think they were on it for about 8 days straight without a
> > hickup.
> >
> > If you go propane, figure what is longest it will take for someone to
> > come out and fill it?  Lugging something around typically is not going
> > to work.  Not to mention expensive and time consuming to keep it going.
> > Plus, might have to shut it off to change tanks etc.  Most gas cos wil
> > rent you a tank and place it for next to nothing, well at least in this
> > area.  If you have a co come fill it, how long will it take to get them
> > out there.  Weekend and emergency fills gets real expensive real quick,
> > so figure you need to run 4 days at least on one tank..
> >
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> > Patrick Shoemaker wrote:
> >> Be careful if using this in cold climates at a remote site. Most diesels
> >> will need a block heater in order to start under a certain temperature,
> >> and powering a block heater at a solar site will not be practical. Your
> >> odds of automatically starting a propane generator in cold temps are
> >> much better than a diesel. Plus you run into algae problems with diesel
> >> stored for long periods of time.
> >>
> >> Patrick Shoemaker
> >> Vector Data Systems LLC
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> >>
> >> Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
> >>
> >>> I thought about that.  Not having one already (other than portable gas
> >>> units) I was really thinking about diesel rather than propane.  It'll
> >>> probably cost more money, but how do you lug a reasonably sized propane
> tank
> >>> up the hill when you can't drive to the site etc.?
> >>>
> >>> By using heating oil any gelling issues should be minimized.  Fuel
> deicer
> >>> (or whatever it's called) should help even more.
> >>>
> >>> Just my thoughts....
> >>> Marlon
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> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Randy Cosby" <dco...@infowest.com>
> >>> To: <wireless@wispa.org>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:19 PM
> >>> Subject: [WISPA] propane generators?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Anyone using small propane generators at their wireless towers?  Any
> >>>> suggestions?  I only need 2KW or so, but would like to be able to
> start
> >>>> it remotely as needed.  The site is primarily solar, this would be to
> >>>> back us up on snow days.
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks,
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