Are any of the towers setup such that you could cross the circle?

In other words, if you had towers 1 to 20 in a ring, have a secondary 
link between towers 4 and 16 for instance.

This would require routing, and preferably dynamic routing, but then you 
would have some redundancy.

John



Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> I don't know if I'll be able to put some many antennas on the towers.
>
> How close together would I need the towers to prevent the rain fade outage 
> at 18 gig?
>
> Aren't there any 5.8 systems that will do this reliably in the first place? 
> I shouldn't need 5.x for distribution so I could use it all for backhaul. 
> I'll have 2.4, 3.65, 4.9 and hopefully, someday, TVBD for the consumers.
> marlon
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brian Webster" <[email protected]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul
>
>
>   
>> The 5.8 GHz backup links will help you deal with outages due to
>> environmental conditions such as rain fade. That has to be factored in for
>> links when you operate above 10 GHz. Even if you run a loop configuration
>> you could have a fade condition that could block out a whole tower site
>> severing your links to that location in both directions of your loop.
>> Another path at a lower frequency with spatial diversity from your primary
>> link (different mounting heights) would at least keep that site up though
>> maybe not at full speed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Brian Webster
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on
>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:26 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Do you think we need the unlicensed for each hop if the entire network is
>> build in a circle?
>> marlon
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Travis Johnson" <[email protected]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul
>>
>>
>>     
>>> Licensed 18ghz links with 5.8ghz backup links for each hop. Figure
>>> $15,000 per link for everything.
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for some gear that'll be rock solid at 15 to 20 miles.  Some
>>>> links may be less, but I'm not counting on that.
>>>>
>>>> I'll be hauling public safety, private vpns, and normal internet 
>>>> traffic.
>>>>
>>>> I'll probably have around 20 towers, all linked in a ring.  I can load
>>>> share
>>>> across the ring as long as speeds never drop below 100megs.  I'll want
>>>> things to be automatically self healing if there is a loss of
>>>> connectivity
>>>> in any direction.
>>>>
>>>> What would you guys use/suggest?
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to go licensed (but no 6 gig due to antenna sizes) but
>>>> unlicensed
>>>> may be OK due to the failover capabilities.
>>>>
>>>> We have to worry about snow, fog and, worst of all, dust storms.
>>>>
>>>> What gear would you use?  How would you set this up?
>>>>
>>>> I'm in the pricing stage so off list quotes etc. are welcome.  Pall park
>>>> numbers are fine at this time, as long as they tend to run high vs. low,
>>>> I'd
>>>> rather over estimate the costs.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> marlon
>>>>
>>>>
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