OSPF is how you manage load sharing and load balancing.

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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:36 AM
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul

> Certainly Jack.  I don't know anyone that's built something like this 
> already though.
>
> And, it's really not that far off from what we already do.  It's just 
> bigger and faster.
>
> I've not used the hardware needed for this system so I'm mostly interested 
> in what people would install.  I know there are a few people here that 
> have very high speed backbone systems in place.
>
> The one part that's got me stumped so far is what to do to create a load 
> sharing load balancing mechanism at the main towers.  Should that be done 
> via high end switch or router?
>
> If you know someone that would be good help in putting this idea together 
> please feel free to have them contact me.  Please note, that nothing will 
> be able to happen at a nut and bolt specific level until construction 
> starts.  The program is customer and land acquisition specific, not build 
> it THIS way specific.  Did I say that at all clearly?  Does it make sense? 
> That is part of why I've not even looked for help yet, there are far more 
> questions than plans in place.  Things are still at a conceptual stage, 
> but I'm trying to drill down a bit better.
>
> Thanks!
> marlon
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Jack Unger
>  To: WISPA General List
>  Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:06 PM
>  Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul
>
>
>  Marlon,
>
>  Trying to design a complex system like this via a listserve "committee" 
> is more than a little bit risky. Have you considered going to someone who 
> actually has this type of network design experience and paying them to do 
> the whole job right the first time? Just asking.
>
>  jack
>
>
>  Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> I don't know if I'll be able to put some many antennas on the towers.
>
> How close together would I need the towers to prevent the rain fade outage
> at 18 gig?
>
> Aren't there any 5.8 systems that will do this reliably in the first 
> place?
> I shouldn't need 5.x for distribution so I could use it all for backhaul.
> I'll have 2.4, 3.65, 4.9 and hopefully, someday, TVBD for the consumers.
> marlon
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brian Webster" <bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul
>
>
>  The 5.8 GHz backup links will help you deal with outages due to
> environmental conditions such as rain fade. That has to be factored in for
> links when you operate above 10 GHz. Even if you run a loop configuration
> you could have a fade condition that could block out a whole tower site
> severing your links to that location in both directions of your loop.
> Another path at a lower frequency with spatial diversity from your primary
> link (different mounting heights) would at least keep that site up though
> maybe not at full speed.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:26 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Do you think we need the unlicensed for each hop if the entire network is
> build in a circle?
> marlon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul
>
>
>    Licensed 18ghz links with 5.8ghz backup links for each hop. Figure
> $15,000 per link for everything.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>      Hi All,
>
> I'm looking for some gear that'll be rock solid at 15 to 20 miles.  Some
> links may be less, but I'm not counting on that.
>
> I'll be hauling public safety, private vpns, and normal internet
> traffic.
>
> I'll probably have around 20 towers, all linked in a ring.  I can load
> share
> across the ring as long as speeds never drop below 100megs.  I'll want
> things to be automatically self healing if there is a loss of
> connectivity
> in any direction.
>
> What would you guys use/suggest?
>
> I'd love to go licensed (but no 6 gig due to antenna sizes) but
> unlicensed
> may be OK due to the failover capabilities.
>
> We have to worry about snow, fog and, worst of all, dust storms.
>
> What gear would you use?  How would you set this up?
>
> I'm in the pricing stage so off list quotes etc. are welcome.  Pall park
> numbers are fine at this time, as long as they tend to run high vs. low,
> I'd
> rather over estimate the costs.
>
> thanks,
> marlon
>
>
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