I think the main confusion here is people are mixing up the Part 15 rules and the part 90 rules. Part 15 the "whole" system has to be type certified. In Part 90 the transmitter has to be certified along with other regulations. Part 90 is a different ball game people, it is licensed and WILL be enforced. Find the rules, read the rules and talk to a lawyer in the industry if you have any confusion. Your business maybe at stake if you mess up.
Anthony Will Broadband Corp [email protected] wrote: > That is my understanding as well from talking with a certification lab. Lower > and equal gain antennas of same type as certified are allowed to be > "substituted" by the manufacturer. > > /Eje > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > > Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 00:52:36 > To: <[email protected]>; WISPA General List<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 ptp > > > As per the FCC only the anufacturer can make the determination which antenna > is similar in specifications. Otherwise it needs FCC certification as a > system. > > That was from the horses mouth about 18 months ago > > Bob > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Scott Carullo" <[email protected]> > > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 19:47:42 > To: WISPA General List<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 ptp > > > Who has the final word on this? I've been told by testing laboratories > that do testing for the FCC that this is not the case... They said if the > radio card (5Ghz when I asked but for this discussion it doesn't matter) > had been approved with an antenna then you could use the same or less db > like antenna and you were good to go - assuming the card manufacturer (like > ubiquity) had had appropriate testing completed and filed with FCC. > > It sure is difficult for any of us to make heads or tales out of what can > or can't be done because everyone has a different opinion - even the people > at the top of the food chain I guess. > > Who's right? And how am I supposed to know? > > Scott Carullo > Brevard Wireless > 321-205-1100 x102 > > -------- Original Message -------- > >> From: "Harold Bledsoe" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 2:21 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 ptp >> >> I think the confusion on this comes from the fact that for the P90 >> licensing process, only the transmitter information is collected. >> Remember that even with Part 90 devices, they still must comply with >> Part 15 requirements for unintentional radiators. This is covered with >> a Declaration of Conformity for the system typically. >> >> So the previous example of the XR3 + ARC + RB411 + PoE (sic) is >> technically only legal if it meets all Part 90 requirements (which it >> should according to the test report on file at the FCC) as well as Part >> 15 requirements for unintentional radiators. In this case, a >> Declaration of Conformity should be on file at the assembler's location. >> >> This is why the label is important. This kind of system built from >> modular components should include a label with a manufacturer name/model >> number, the contains FCC ID: xxxxxx, and the 2 required statements about >> unintentional interference. This information tells anyone including the >> FCC who to contact for intentional emission issues (P-90 in this >> example) as well as unintentional emission issues (P-15 in this case). >> If there is no label on there, then it is illegal by default. Then if >> there are problems with the intentional radiator, it is the module >> maker's problem (assuming the integration instructions were followed >> properly). Finally if there are problems with the unintentional >> emissions, it is the system assembler's problem. >> >> I know, I know....this is a licensed, Part 90 band. So why does Part 15 >> even matter? Simply put, P-90 covers the transmitter, P-15 covers the >> rest of the crap spewing from the device in the rest of the >> spectrum. :-) >> >> -Hal >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David E. Smith <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 ptp >> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 18:05:36 GMT >> >> >>> My system is fully licensed. >>> >> How did you get your combination of "XR3 >> + Routerboard 400 series + Mikrotik RouterOS 3.x + whatever antenna" >> certified? What's the process like, and how much did it cost?Or did you >> just buy the kit from someone else who went through the certification >> process? If so, from whom? I'd be willing to pay a small premium over >> the price of "all those parts" just to avoid the legal heat.David >> SmithMVN.net >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > >> WISPA Wants You! 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