I'm sure some on this list would call you quite creative. ;-)
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 4:01 PM To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 ptp > Of course, Jack. > > Part of what adds up to confusion is that there's always questions that > come > up that don't have particularly clear answers by just reading the rules. > > And the rules are very short and to the point. It's easy to read them > (the > ones for 3650) through in a relatively short period of time, and yet still > have answers. That's when "interpretation" of the rules comes into play, > often in a very technological context, and I'd say a lawyer's not going to > be a lot of help, unless he's technically at engineer level, and I'm not > sure that all the FCC personell have been even asked all the questions, > yet, > that us creative types can dream up. > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > <insert witty tagline here> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jack Unger" <[email protected]> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 1:48 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 ptp > > >> As I see it, there are two sources of information on FCC matters. >> >> 1. Those people (onlist) who have the most experience with an issue (be >> it >> 3.65 or any other issue). Experience still adds up to knowledge. Anything >> less is just guessing. Put your faith in those that you trust who have >> experience with an issue, whatever the issue is. >> >> 2. Your FCC attorney. FCC matters are, at base, a matter of law. >> >> jack >> >> [email protected] wrote: >> I dunno who to ask, I think even if you ask the FCC you might get a >> slightly >> muddled answer. I just used exactly what was certified including the >> enclosure used, and followed the rest of the requirements as best I >> could. >> >> >> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> <insert witty tagline here> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Scott Carullo" <[email protected]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 5:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 ptp >> >> >> Who has the final word on this? I've been told by testing laboratories >> that do testing for the FCC that this is not the case... They said if >> the >> radio card (5Ghz when I asked but for this discussion it doesn't matter) >> had been approved with an antenna then you could use the same or less db >> like antenna and you were good to go - assuming the card manufacturer >> (like >> ubiquity) had had appropriate testing completed and filed with FCC. >> >> It sure is difficult for any of us to make heads or tales out of what can >> or can't be done because everyone has a different opinion - even the >> people >> at the top of the food chain I guess. >> >> Who's right? And how am I supposed to know? >> >> Scott Carullo >> Brevard Wireless >> 321-205-1100 x102 >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> From: "Harold Bledsoe" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 2:21 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 ptp >> >> I think the confusion on this comes from the fact that for the P90 >> licensing process, only the transmitter information is collected. >> Remember that even with Part 90 devices, they still must comply with >> Part 15 requirements for unintentional radiators. This is covered with >> a Declaration of Conformity for the system typically. >> >> So the previous example of the XR3 + ARC + RB411 + PoE (sic) is >> technically only legal if it meets all Part 90 requirements (which it >> should according to the test report on file at the FCC) as well as Part >> 15 requirements for unintentional radiators. In this case, a >> Declaration of Conformity should be on file at the assembler's location. >> >> This is why the label is important. This kind of system built from >> modular components should include a label with a manufacturer name/model >> number, the contains FCC ID: xxxxxx, and the 2 required statements about >> unintentional interference. This information tells anyone including the >> FCC who to contact for intentional emission issues (P-90 in this >> example) as well as unintentional emission issues (P-15 in this case). >> If there is no label on there, then it is illegal by default. Then if >> there are problems with the intentional radiator, it is the module >> maker's problem (assuming the integration instructions were followed >> properly). Finally if there are problems with the unintentional >> emissions, it is the system assembler's problem. >> >> I know, I know....this is a licensed, Part 90 band. So why does Part 15 >> even matter? Simply put, P-90 covers the transmitter, P-15 covers the >> rest of the crap spewing from the device in the rest of the >> spectrum. :-) >> >> -Hal >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David E. Smith <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 ptp >> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 18:05:36 GMT >> >> My system is fully licensed. >> How did you get your combination of "XR3 >> + Routerboard 400 series + Mikrotik RouterOS 3.x + whatever antenna" >> certified? What's the process like, and how much did it cost?Or did you >> just buy the kit from someone else who went through the certification >> process? If so, from whom? I'd be willing to pay a small premium over >> the price of "all those parts" just to avoid the legal heat.David >> SmithMVN.net >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> WISPA Wants You! 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