How do you do that, Patrick?

Seriously, 18 mbit is 18 mbit.

It isn't magically 36 because it has the word 'wimax' attached to it.

Now, we do understand the technical improvements from better MAC's, but that 
has mostly translated to narrower channels, not more throughput.

Even if you do FIBER, but your "choke point", where everything comes down to 
a single pipe, be it a router, feed, AP, etc,  data is data, it doesn't 
magically shrink because you label "wimax" on the device.    Because we 
don't talk in "radio rate" but "AP to client throughput aggregate totals", 
it doesn't matter if it's wimax, bpl, 802.11 or some totally proprietary 
unknown system.   Data transfer limits are data transfer limits, and if you 
need to keep 30 clients going all at the same time with at least 1 meg, it 
ain't going to happen with an 18M feed point, even if the "wimax" word is 
printed, taped, labelled, or scratched onto the device.




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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Leary" <[email protected]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?


> That's nuts Mike. I know numerous examples where the numbers are very
> high. Simply depends on what you are selling, like it always has. In
> general though, it is probably a fair point to say that how ever many
> customers you can get on a WISP model for a given capacity, double the
> number of customers for the same service and same same capacity in the
> WiMAX world.
>
>
> Patrick Leary
> Aperto Networks
> 813.426.4230 mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:20 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
>
> More troll than substance but I wouldn't put more than 30 users on a
> WiMAX AP anyway...  not enough bandwidth.
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jeff Booher" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:28 AM
> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
>
>> It is not the same gear by any means. Tranzeo's AP is a micro base
>> station,
>> that only supports 30 subscribers.
>>
>> -
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> On
>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:34 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
>>
>> I'm certainly interested in ptmp.
>>
>> The Tranzeo gear is the same as Aperto isn't it?
>> marlon
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
>>
>>
>>> Ligowave its ptp in 3.65...
>>>
>>> Might wanna look at tranzeo for 3.65 ptmp
>>>
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> [email protected]
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> On
>>> Behalf Of Leon Zetekoff
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:32 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
>>>
>>> Hi Marlon...I'd look at the Ligowave stuff similar in principle to
> the
>>> UBNT stuff but I think much better. That's what I'd do today.
>>>
>>> Take care leon
>>>
>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>>>> I'm looking into this too.
>>>>
>>>> So far I can't find a solution for rural towers.  A 3 sector install
>>>> at $20k?  Not to service the 20 people that will be able to even see
>>>> that tower....
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any better ideas?
>>>> marlon
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: "Motorola Canopy User Group" <[email protected]>; "WISPA
> General
>>> List"
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:55 AM
>>>> Subject: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Fellow operators:
>>>>>
>>>>> Any updates on your experienes with 3.65 gear? PMP and PTP?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any updates on experiences with:
>>>>>
>>>>> Redline, Aperto, Tranzeo, Vecima, Alvarion, Ligowave, Solectek,
>>>>> Airspan ???
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>>> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>>>>>
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