Mike,

There is nothing fancy about a switched MAC vs a polled or listen before
talk mac. That has very little to do with QOS as much is does with utlizing
the pipe appropriately. In a polled system the latency increases with the #
of subscriber stations, same with a listen before talk.In a wimax system,
the mean latency and customer experience remains the same whether or not
there are 30 subs on an AP or 100. Why? Because an inactive subscriber is
not polled, and active subscribers are given time slots to transmit /
receive on a msec basis. 

-

Jeff
  

-----Original Message-----
From: rea...@muddyfrogwater.us [mailto:rea...@muddyfrogwater.us] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 5:24 PM
To: jefftho...@fastmail.fm; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?

Many of us can't get away with that.  We have to make sure that there's
actually bandwidth, not a fancy, 'managed' version of severe
oversubscription.




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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Booher" <jefftho...@fastmail.fm>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?


> Mike,
>
> Many Wimax manufacturers have many operators who have more than 100 subs 
> per
> AP. Our solution supports up to 30k pps, so it can most defintely scale to
> this level.
>
> The Wimax mac was designed for this, bandwidth aside.
>
> -
>
> Jeff
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:20 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
>
> More troll than substance but I wouldn't put more than 30 users on a WiMAX
> AP anyway...  not enough bandwidth.
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jeff Booher" <jefftho...@fastmail.fm>
> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:28 AM
> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
>
>> It is not the same gear by any means. Tranzeo's AP is a micro base
>> station,
>> that only supports 30 subscribers.
>>
>> -
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:34 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
>>
>> I'm certainly interested in ptmp.
>>
>> The Tranzeo gear is the same as Aperto isn't it?
>> marlon
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
>>
>>
>>> Ligowave its ptp in 3.65...
>>>
>>> Might wanna look at tranzeo for 3.65 ptmp
>>>
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Leon Zetekoff
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:32 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
>>>
>>> Hi Marlon...I'd look at the Ligowave stuff similar in principle to the
>>> UBNT stuff but I think much better. That's what I'd do today.
>>>
>>> Take care leon
>>>
>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>>>> I'm looking into this too.
>>>>
>>>> So far I can't find a solution for rural towers.  A 3 sector install
>>>> at $20k?  Not to service the 20 people that will be able to even see
>>>> that tower....
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any better ideas?
>>>> marlon
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com>
>>>> To: "Motorola Canopy User Group" <motor...@wispa.org>; "WISPA General
>>> List"
>>>> <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:55 AM
>>>> Subject: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Fellow operators:
>>>>>
>>>>> Any updates on your experienes with 3.65 gear? PMP and PTP?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any updates on experiences with:
>>>>>
>>>>> Redline, Aperto, Tranzeo, Vecima, Alvarion, Ligowave, Solectek,
>>>>> Airspan ???
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>>> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>>>>>
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