Hey reader you are muddying the waters a bit here. 
I thought the days were over when people thought they could put up one base
station and serve a 1000 square miles or worse put up one base station and
server a 1000 customers. 
I have a customer in Canada that serves 12 Mb out to 45 kilometers via
WiMAX, LOS of course.

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?

I can get 12 to 18 mbit off my 5 ghz AP's, and with customers limited to 
2Mbit, I'm still bumping into limits in the 30 - 45 range per AP,  and even 
then, I consider it oversubscribed.

Now, 18mbit throughput in 7 mhz is great...  But how good does the signal 
have to be, and when the signals degrade due to distance or... How much 
effect does this have?     What's the distance you can do 18?   2 miles?   4

miles?   I need 25 miles...   I can't even GO 25 miles decently with 3.65, 
due to eirp limits.





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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?


> Good efficiencies, not enough throughput per channel, however.
>
> In one thread in one list we have people complaining about not having 
> enough
> bandwidth to serve their customers now much less next year or the next and
> in the other, we have people excited about an AP that only does 18 
> megabit.
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:24 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
>
>> Not enough? You get 18 mbps in a 7 mhz channel
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> [email protected]
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:20 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
>>
>> More troll than substance but I wouldn't put more than 30 users on a
>> WiMAX AP anyway...  not enough bandwidth.
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Jeff Booher" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:28 AM
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
>>
>>> It is not the same gear by any means. Tranzeo's AP is a micro base
>>> station,
>>> that only supports 30 subscribers.
>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> On
>>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:34 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
>>>
>>> I'm certainly interested in ptmp.
>>>
>>> The Tranzeo gear is the same as Aperto isn't it?
>>> marlon
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ligowave its ptp in 3.65...
>>>>
>>>> Might wanna look at tranzeo for 3.65 ptmp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Leon Zetekoff
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:32 PM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
>>>>
>>>> Hi Marlon...I'd look at the Ligowave stuff similar in principle to
>> the
>>>> UBNT stuff but I think much better. That's what I'd do today.
>>>>
>>>> Take care leon
>>>>
>>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>>>>> I'm looking into this too.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far I can't find a solution for rural towers.  A 3 sector install
>>>>> at $20k?  Not to service the 20 people that will be able to even see
>>>>> that tower....
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have any better ideas?
>>>>> marlon
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: "Motorola Canopy User Group" <[email protected]>; "WISPA
>> General
>>>> List"
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:55 AM
>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Fellow operators:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any updates on your experienes with 3.65 gear? PMP and PTP?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any updates on experiences with:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Redline, Aperto, Tranzeo, Vecima, Alvarion, Ligowave, Solectek,
>>>>>> Airspan ???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>>>> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>>>>>>
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