I do not care to see people trashing each other's business models whether they are cash poor, cash rich or someplace in the middle. I am actually glad to see some data on this particular model because I think it actually could work well with $3.6M in yearly revenues. I think it is impressive. I wish we could all gain access to some of this spectrum, big cash, licensed WiMax gear and build it out. That does not mean I think it is the only model nor do I trash the occasional cash strapped guy building his first Wi-Fi POP with his VISA card nor the typical WISP operator who took out a second mortgage or similar "pound of flesh" financing to launch his first few towers using unlicensed. God bless all of them. I think we should all try to respect that each of us have a different approach. I certainly do not pretend to think I have all the answers and I appreciate those who share what they do to make their model work. I sense some sour grapes here due to this network being built in your territory. If you think it is a poor model then steal all their customers and teach them a lesson. Tell us how you did please. That would tell a far more compelling story than just trashing their model on the list. Scriv
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > Plus the cost of the 2.5ghz license in our area... which I heard they > paid like $7,000,000 for (in an area with 50,000 population)... plus the > licensed backhauls (Ceragon 18ghz in a ring), plus tower rent (they are > on the most expensive towers in town). > > No wonder they are blowing through investor money faster than they can > get it... LOL > > Travis > > > John Rock wrote: >> Hmmm >> >> 4 sector 2.5 Ghz system >> >> 1,000,000 deployment >> >> 4000 users paying you $74.99 for Voip and Data from your deployment >> >> It all works >> >> Priceless >> >> Do the math >> >> >> >> >> >> John Rock >> Director of Operations - Senior Engineer >> >> Wireless Connections >> 166 Milan Ave., Norwalk, Oh. 44857 >> ACCessing the Future Today!! >> ofc. 419.660.6100 >> >> cell 419-706-7356 >> fax 419-668-4077 >> <http://www.wirelessconnections.net/> http://www.wirelessconnections.net >> >> This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential >> and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If >> you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any >> disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying >> or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If >> you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by >> reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 7:44 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> We have BridgeMaxx in our area. They are using 2.5ghz licensed with Alvarion >> WiMax equipment. This is the "top of the line", $50k per sector type stuff. >> Then I can also tell you that we are seeing a LOT of antennas that have to >> be mounted outdoors, on a tripod with a 10ft pole to get over the trees. The >> NLOS doesn't seem to be working very well, especially on several of these >> the tower is less than a mile away. >> >> So they spent $250k per tower x 4 towers in our area and they are still >> having to roll a truck and do an outdoor install. And this is even with >> 2.5ghz licensed. It makes me happy to see one of their antennas mounted >> outdoors... that's means they lost even more money for that install... :) >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> John Rock wrote: >> >> Matt, >> I have pictures to show you... >> Believe it or not? >> >> John Rock >> Director of Operations - Senior Engineer >> Wireless Connections >> 166 Milan Ave., Norwalk, Oh. 44857 >> ACCessing the Future Today!! >> ofc. 419.660.6100 >> cell 419-706-7356 >> fax 419-668-4077 >> http://www.wirelessconnections.net >> This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential >> and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If >> you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any >> disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying >> or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If >> you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by >> reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Matt Liotta >> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:29 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? >> >> >> On Mar 19, 2009, at 3:18 PM, Chuck Bartosch wrote: >> >> >> >> However, that (obviously) means it's not particularly viable in many >> situations where you don't see enough customers to support a wimax >> base station. But because 3.65 with diversity is supposed to deliver >> NLOS performance similar to or better than 900 MHz, you can see >> customers you wouldn't otherwise see. >> >> >> >> I can tell you for a fact that even with uplink subchannelization, >> diversity, and all of WiMAX's OFDM subcarriers, 3.65 does not deliver >> NLOS performance similar to or better than 900Mhz. Throw all the >> technology you want at it and 3.65 is still not going to get through >> much foliage. NLOS performance in an urban environment on the other >> hand is great. >> >> -Matt >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> WISPA Wants You! 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