Well since I got beat up pretty bad it seems... I'll respond :-)

BTW if you read my last post... I was pretty clear Tranzeo radios are
okay... and can do the job just fine.  In my experience though you will find
many more people that will curse their radios then praise their radios.  I'm
probably somewhere in that middle ground...

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


>-----Original Message-----
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
>Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:22 AM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community
>
>A few responses here:
>
>1)  You don't have to use Tranzeo APs with Tranzeo CPEs.    The new
>Tranzeo APs (EN-500 series) does have a lot more management features
>than the older Tranzeo units (TR-6000, TR-5a).   You can also use StarOS
>or Mikrotik APs and have all the centralized management and advanced
>features that you could possibly want for an 802.11 network.

Agreed.  One of the advantages to Tranzeo or 802.11 based gear is that it is
for the most part interoperable.  Yes my experience with Tranzeo is pre
EN-500 series.  But at the end of the day it's still 802.11... :-)

>2)  The older CPEs do need to be rebooted occasionally.   The newer
>units do not seem to have this same problem.

I'm glad they FINALLY got that fixed.  Only took them 5 years or so right?

>3)  I tend to disagree with comments that the cases are poorly
>designed.   The Tranzeo radios have substantial internal grounding and
>have a very high degree of tolerance for environmental extremes, both
>hot and cold.   They are built like tanks compared to the PCB in a
>plastic case design of the Ubiquiti and Motorola Canopy radios.   The
>cable boot is not that bad to work with, but they could be improved.

The cases are poorly designed because they are cheap.  The mounting hardware
is cheap.  I've seen the radios fill up with water because they were not
sealed right.  I've also had that plastic break with the CPE just riding
around in my truck (granted something could have hit it I guess).  

On the flip side... I've dropped Canopy radios off of a 100ft tower once
with no damage once so ever.  The cable entrance is the easiest one to deal
with out there.  The radios don't have to be grounded because at no point is
the case metal.  I'll take the Canopy design any day.

>4)  Tranzeo is RUS approved.   I would have to dig up the link, but I
>did determine that they will qualify for RUS or stimulus financing.

I think all wireless gear qualifies for RUS funding... it's just RUS
approved gear goes through the process quicker.  Either way, I'm not an
expert on RUS funding :-)

>5)  They work great for PTMP, and there are hundreds of thousands of
>Tranzeos out in the field providing PTMP service to WISP customers.  The
>2.4ghz models have the same limitations of all 802.11b gear, but the
>802.11a based gear is especially capable and a great value.

There was also hundreds of thousands of Smartbridge CPE's out there... but I
wouldn't argue that made it a good product.  They work okay in low noise low
client environments. But they work fine for being an 802.11 a/b device.
Personally if I was going this route I would probably look more towards
Ubiquity for CPE's and Mikrotik for AP's... but Tranzeo WILL work. 

>Hope that helps.
>
>Matt Larsen
>vistabeam.com
>
>
>
>3-dB Networks wrote:
>> So are you looking to provide a muni Wi-Fi type setup?
>>
>> I have used and deployed a few hundred Tranzeo radios... they seem to
>play
>> best with each other... there has been issues when mixing other
>clients with
>> them.
>>
>> There is not going to be a central management system for them... which
>could
>> be very problematic
>>
>> I have seen many issues with the management locking up, with a reboot
>being
>> the only way to bring it back.  Tranzeo may have worked past these
>issues by
>> now.
>>
>> In my opinion their radio cases are poorly designed, but it helps make
>them
>> cheap.  Of note the cable boot can be very difficult to work with.
>>
>> Overall though, I would deploy Tranzeo in the right situations.  I'm
>not
>> sure you have one of them though.  I would lean towards Ubiquity since
>they
>> are a cheaper price point and there are more choices for the firmware.
>On
>> the downside availability can be difficult.
>>
>> I'm also not sure if Tranzeo is RUS approved.  I would start from the
>RUS
>> approved list and work from there... as it will make getting that
>stimulus
>> money easier.
>>
>> Now if you're looking to do point to multi-point... it is a whole
>different
>> conversation (and not generally in Tranzeo's favor).
>>
>> Daniel White
>> 3-dB Networks
>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>On
>>> Behalf Of Rogelio
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:34 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community
>>>
>>> I'm looking into setting up wi-fi for rural county (using stimulus
>>> dollars) and am now looking for CPE devices to put on each rooftop.
>>>
>>> A past coworker told me that he's heard good things about Tranzeo,
>and I
>>> was wondering what others here on the list thought about them as a
>>> vendor.
>>>
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