Yeah those little adhesive knockouts for the screw hole made great black warts 
at Halloween time.  My kids used to stick one on their nose and the rest all 
over their little hands as witches.  That's great to know about the zip ties. 
They also learned to use them (50+ at a time) to hold the chest part of 
seatbelts over out of the way and if those weren't available daddy's multi 
colored electrical tape will do.

Steve Barnes
RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service


-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of D. Ryan Spott
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 7:34 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community

My 6YO daughter disagrees with the no adhesive seals... She really, 
really liked "daddy's stickers." I occasionally peel evidence of this 
off the rear window of my truck.

Now she plays with daddy's zip ties.... did you know a bag of 300 can be 
zipped together by a 6 year old in less than 30 minutes?!

ryan

Steve Barnes wrote:
> Ryan, so right on.  I have had to drill this into my installers.  It's a seal 
> not an engine block, you don't need to torque it down.  However you have to 
> get it tight enough that ice sitting on top wont open it up.  You also have 
> to admit that the new no adhesive seals are better.
>
> Steve Barnes
> RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 4:42 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community
>
> Let me guess, you are torquing down the plastic cover until it can be 
> torqued down no more!
>
> Use this method.. no tools required:
>
> *With left hand; Press down cover, compressing the foam, until it 
> touches the unit. Perform this right next to where the stud comes 
> through the cover.
> *With right hand tighten nut with fingers until finger tight.
> *Let go of cover with right hand. The foam should "spring back" with 
> just enough pressure to keep it compressed, but not too compressed.
> *Repeat until done with all 4 nuts.
>
> After you do this for a while you can do it with one hand... or better 
> yet, you will know how much you should be tightening down the cover and 
> you can use a nut-driver.
>
> ryan
>
> David Hulsebus wrote:
>   
>> The only issue I've had with Tranzeo are the cover and seal they use for 
>> the POE. We've followed their directions but have had issues with water 
>> seeping into a few units. We now drill small holes in the bottom of the 
>> cover to let them drain if needed. We got tired of climbing a tower to 
>> replace defective units after a few days of rain..  Has anyone else 
>> experienced this? They are the TR5a-20&24f series.
>>
>> Thanks, Dave Hulsebus
>> Portative Technologies, LLC
>> www.portative.com
>>
>>
>> Steve Barnes wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Very Nice Post Matt.  I agree completely.  Few reboots here and there but 
>>> rock solid 98% of the time. The cable boot issue that Matt is talking about 
>>> is that you can't have cables pre-crimped you have to feed the wire through 
>>> the boot then crimp the end on.  Some other manufactures system had a 
>>> rubber grommet that will compress down enough that you can get the cable 
>>> through already crimped and tighten it after the fact.  Takes an installer 
>>> 2 mistakes of having to cut ends off and redo to fix that from being a 
>>> problem.  Tranzeo are good units.
>>>
>>> Steve Barnes
>>> RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 1:22 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community
>>>
>>> A few responses here:
>>>
>>> 1)  You don't have to use Tranzeo APs with Tranzeo CPEs.    The new 
>>> Tranzeo APs (EN-500 series) does have a lot more management features 
>>> than the older Tranzeo units (TR-6000, TR-5a).   You can also use StarOS 
>>> or Mikrotik APs and have all the centralized management and advanced 
>>> features that you could possibly want for an 802.11 network.
>>> 2)  The older CPEs do need to be rebooted occasionally.   The newer 
>>> units do not seem to have this same problem.
>>> 3)  I tend to disagree with comments that the cases are poorly 
>>> designed.   The Tranzeo radios have substantial internal grounding and 
>>> have a very high degree of tolerance for environmental extremes, both 
>>> hot and cold.   They are built like tanks compared to the PCB in a 
>>> plastic case design of the Ubiquiti and Motorola Canopy radios.   The 
>>> cable boot is not that bad to work with, but they could be improved.  
>>> 4)  Tranzeo is RUS approved.   I would have to dig up the link, but I 
>>> did determine that they will qualify for RUS or stimulus financing.
>>> 5)  They work great for PTMP, and there are hundreds of thousands of 
>>> Tranzeos out in the field providing PTMP service to WISP customers.  The 
>>> 2.4ghz models have the same limitations of all 802.11b gear, but the 
>>> 802.11a based gear is especially capable and a great value.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps.
>>>
>>> Matt Larsen
>>> vistabeam.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 3-dB Networks wrote:
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> So are you looking to provide a muni Wi-Fi type setup?
>>>>
>>>> I have used and deployed a few hundred Tranzeo radios... they seem to play
>>>> best with each other... there has been issues when mixing other clients 
>>>> with
>>>> them.  
>>>>
>>>> There is not going to be a central management system for them... which 
>>>> could
>>>> be very problematic
>>>>
>>>> I have seen many issues with the management locking up, with a reboot being
>>>> the only way to bring it back.  Tranzeo may have worked past these issues 
>>>> by
>>>> now.
>>>>
>>>> In my opinion their radio cases are poorly designed, but it helps make them
>>>> cheap.  Of note the cable boot can be very difficult to work with.
>>>>
>>>> Overall though, I would deploy Tranzeo in the right situations.  I'm not
>>>> sure you have one of them though.  I would lean towards Ubiquity since they
>>>> are a cheaper price point and there are more choices for the firmware.  On
>>>> the downside availability can be difficult.
>>>>
>>>> I'm also not sure if Tranzeo is RUS approved.  I would start from the RUS
>>>> approved list and work from there... as it will make getting that stimulus
>>>> money easier.
>>>>
>>>> Now if you're looking to do point to multi-point... it is a whole different
>>>> conversation (and not generally in Tranzeo's favor).  
>>>>
>>>> Daniel White
>>>> 3-dB Networks
>>>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Rogelio
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:34 AM
>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking into setting up wi-fi for rural county (using stimulus
>>>>> dollars) and am now looking for CPE devices to put on each rooftop.
>>>>>
>>>>> A past coworker told me that he's heard good things about Tranzeo, and I
>>>>> was wondering what others here on the list thought about them as a
>>>>> vendor.
>>>>>
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