I agree with you with the exception of the words. You can get your point across without sinking to that level.
Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998-5555 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blake Bowers" <[email protected]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know...... > Bob is one of the most professional that I see on the lists, > and he is always freely giving of good sound advice, espically > when it comes to towers. > > I suspect the furor over him calling a loser a loser is a bit > misplaced. > > I understand his agravation. > > And your right about the deposit... Giving it back would > be the wrong thing in my book. > > > Don't take your organs to heaven, > heaven knows we need them down here! > Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:37 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know...... > > >> Bob is trying to offer a favor to others and gets spit on the face. I >> think >> bringing this out will prevent this from happening again. Treat others as >> you wish to be treated - the best rule out there. >> >> If someone wants their deposit back they need to learn what a deposit >> is... >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >> --- Henry Spencer >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Jerry Richardson >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Schadenfreude.... >>> >>> Nice use of the word :-) >>> >>> __________________________________ >>> Jerry Richardson >>> airCloud Communications >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Vickie Edwards >>> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:30 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know...... >>> >>> It's understandable that you think this is a proper forum for such >>> venting. However, it really, really isn't. >>> >>> While I'm sure that most of the members of this list (myself included) >>> have the capability for schadenfreude and love a good trainwreck, this >>> is a list for internet professionals to discuss technical and logistics >>> matters. >>> >>> At best, you seem petty. At worst, you're damaging your reputation among >>> other WISPs and professionals, and that can be irreparable. >>> >>> >>> InLine> >>> vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist >>> InLine Connections> Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy >>> Birmingham AL, 35209 >>> 205-278-8106 [p] >>> 205-941-1934[f] >>> [email protected] >>> www.InLine.com >>> All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any >>> attached files may contain confidential information and are intended >>> solely for the message recipient. 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If verification is required please request a hard-copy >>> version. >>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Bob Moldashel >>> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:28 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ya Know...... >>> >>> After reading this again..... >>> >>> No... >>> >>> What would have been better for Bob in the first place is if the other >>> party (who is a WISPA member) would have conducted themselves in a >>> professional manner and sent payments when he said he was going to and >>> not "play' me. I suppose I should be "professional" and return his >>> deposit too??? Maybe I should give him interest on his $500 too while I >>> had it in my bank. >>> >>> I almost sent the money I promised to donate to WISPA on the sale of >>> this link out of the deposit. Fortunately for me and unfortunately for >>> WISPA I didn't. >>> >>> So what the other party did was unprofessional. So...If this is a >>> professional organization maybe he shouldn't be a member because he >>> doesn't meet the "professional" criteria. >>> >>> I didn't name any names so I don't know what the issue is. So many >>> people here bitch about the FCC, the rules, manufacturer's handling of >>> RMA's, repairs, price, delivery, tower companies, throughput, RF >>> interference, etc, etc. >>> >>> Please don't single me out. It won't work. And I don't want to be the >>> person who points out when others are being "unprofessional". >>> >>> -B- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Matt Liotta wrote: >>> > Except of course that isn't professional. And, while I have many times >>> >>> > wanted to complain about some other WISP in public I won't because it >>> >>> > isn't professional. What would have been better for Bob in the first >>> > place and for the rest of us always; would be simply for each other to >>> >>> > treat their peers with respect. This is supposed to be a professional >>> >>> > organization after all. >>> > >>> > -Matt >>> > >>> > On Apr 16, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> >> Geesh...that sucks Bob. I'd almost say a public flogging of the perp >>> >>> >> is in order...<grin> >>> >> >>> >> Brad >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> >>> >> On >>> >> Behalf Of Bob Moldashel >>> >> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:28 PM >>> >> To: WISPA General List >>> >> Subject: [WISPA] Ya Know...... >>> >> >>> >> The world is really full of losers..... >>> >> >>> >> After 6 weeks of BS and a down payment check of $500 I once again >>> have >>> >> another happy list member backing out of the purchase of the 200 Mb >>> >> Dragonwave link that I have. Nothing like wasting my time. The reason >>> >>> >> given is that he doesn't feel that the link will perform at 1 mile >>> >> EVEN WITH 4' FREAKIN' DISHES!!!! There is nothing worse than someone >>> >>> >> who can't just say something like "I can't afford it" or something >>> >> real like that. No...the excuse is a 23 Ghz. FD link won't work over >>> >>> >> 1 mile in >>> >> the southwest "RELIABLY". AUGH!!!! >>> >> >>> >> And get this.....He wants his deposit back! I have to laugh.... >>> >> >>> >> I will not identify who the person or entity is as they are on this >>> >> list. I will let him defend himself if he wishes too. (BTW: I have >>> >>> >> ALL the e-mails so I can support my side so please don't try to come >>> >>> >> up >>> >> with another story dude...) >>> >> >>> >> OK....Now. Here is the last chance if someone wants it. >>> >> >>> >> Dragonwave 200 Mb Airpair all outdoor link, 23 Ghz. FDX with your >>> >> choice of 2' (new) or 4' used antennas. The link was in service for a >>> >>> >> little over 1 year. has a fiber interface and power supplies for >>> each >>> >> side. I will guarantee it will work as advertised. I will also give >>> >>> >> anyone that is sincerely interested the serial numbers and you can >>> >> call Dragonwave and see for yourself that this link never had a >>> >> problem. >>> >> >>> >> The first $7K gets it. You pay shipping. No discount for radios >>> only. >>> >> if you want just the equipment less antennas...Still $7K >>> >> >>> >> Its a good deal if you have money. I am not financing this so please >>> >>> >> don't ask. >>> >> >>> >> Sorry for the rant. >>> >> >>> >> Offlist ([email protected]) or my cell 516-551-1131 anytime >>> >> >>> >> Bob >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ---- >>> >> ---- >>> >> WISPA Wants You! 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