Well as it stands to day it will not be able to because one of the
requirements is continuously looking and detecting radar signatures. In
their current implementation they only look for a short period after the
interface been enabled but before it start transmitting. Next time it will
look is if you change the interface settings or reboot the unit. 
DFS requires continuously checking and honestly I am not sure that 802.11
based hardware could do this without hardware modifications. But then I'm
not a hardware engineer and not perfectly well versed with all requirements
with the DFS protocol. I just know there are some people that tried to use
MT to get a DFS certified solution and it failed to pass the requirements
with the exception when it saw radar directly after the interface was
enabled. From the looks of things it really never looks for radar signatures
again after it gotten its initial good to go. 

Is it possible to change the functionality in MikroTik to comply with DFS2
requirements on a software level/driver level without hardware changes I do
not know. Just that as it is today it is a clear no go.

/ Eje

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:19 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

Eje,

>The way DFS is designed in MT it will never be
> able to get certified.

Pleasse elaborate, thats a strong statement. If it were true it would means 
that the DFS limit was hardware or 802.11a protocol based, because software 
ALWAYS has the option to be changed and modified to meet a specific 
requirements. I agree that MT's current DFS2 support would not pass FCC 
certification. But I don't see why it couldn't be expanded to be 
certifiable.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eje Gustafsson" <[email protected]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?


> And 5.2 is not allowed for outdoor usage. So Franks unit is an indoor unit

> I
> would suspect he is suffering from multipath reflections.
>
> Besides on the radar stuff.. The way DFS is designed in MT it will never 
> be
> able to get certified. First of it must continuously look for and detect
> radar not just when it first enable the interface. Secondly it at least 
> did
> a horrible job in actually detecting radar signatures.
>
> Besides 5.2 is not part of the band you can use even with a certified 
> radar
> detecting device.
>
> / Eje
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LTI
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:32 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
>
> Part of the 5.2 band.  All of the radar patters are in MT, just not
> certified.
>
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> Gino Villarini wrote:
>> 5180.....hmmm!!!
>>
>> Not to bust anyones head but you are using an uncertified device on an
>> illegal channel
>>
>> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>>
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2009, at 3:20 PM, "Josh Luthman"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Gino - Top right corner.
>>>
>>> Did the CPU just jump or has it casually been like that?
>>>
>>> I've never had 5 radios in any board, I don't know if that would
>>> cause a lot
>>> of usage or not.  Most any MT box I've seen is <5% CPU.  A lot of
>>> NAT as was
>>> mentioned would be the first place I'd look.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
>>> --- Henry Spencer
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kevin Neal <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Is this doing any NAT?  Is connection tracking enabled?  Do you
>>>> have all
>>>> unneeded packages disabled?  We have a few RB600's out there and
>>>> they do
>>>> fine for the most part, we don't do any wireless on the 600's and
>>>> all of
>>>> them have the 564 daughterboard in them.
>>>>
>>>> -Kevin Neal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:wireless-
>>>> [email protected]] On
>>>> Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:50 PM
>>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>>> Subject: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
>>>>
>>>> I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces
>>>> are
>>>> bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the
>>>> traffic that
>>>> passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41
>>>> RIP routes
>>>> might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that
>>>> much
>>>> sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others
>>>> and if
>>>> there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know.
>>>> CPU
>>>> usage
>>>> on it is around 40-50%.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>>> WAVELINC
>>>> P.O. Box 126
>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>>> 419-562-6405
>>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>>
>
>
>
>
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