What parts of Ok are you located in? Marco Argon Technologies
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:25 PM, RickG<rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > In addition, tower rights (or lack thereof) is a big consideration. > -RickG > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Tom DeReggi<wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net> wrote: >> I disagree with comments relating to X times annual revenue. >> I think the issue is more that buyers are realizing that in this market and >> economy X times revenue doesn't adequately valuate a company. >> A 3-4X times annual could still be achieved if the most of the gross revenue >> was actually monthly profit. Some businesses are in that situation. >> They have their gear paid for, most of their reoccuring costs are in-kind >> trade, etc. >> The problem is that isn't usually the case, which is why they get 1X >> valuations, if even that.. Usually what occurs is, a business has next to no >> profit, poor cashflow, and leased out the kazu for 3-5 years, and thus is >> tired out of working long hours for free. Further the buyer has to consider >> risk, and in this economy its uncertain whether business models will mature >> to success. >> >> I think you need to really look at your business to determine its profile, >> before you can begin to establish a worth or a method of valuating it. >> >> For example, Surely a company that owns a million dollars of gear outright >> is not going to be valued the sam as a company that has 3 years of leases >> remaining on their books for the same amount. >> >> You could also look at how to get rid of your primary costs. For example, >> maybe backhaul is one of the large expenses? If so would a WISP that got a >> middle mile infrastructure grant, benefit by your network? >> >> The biggest problem I see with getting a high valuation on a 500 sub network >> is that there might not be enough subs to really cover the payroll of techs >> on the street that buyer would have to obtain to manage it. >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "3-dB Networks" <wi...@3-db.net> >> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 4:36 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question re: WISP for sale >> >> >>> Yeah don't expect over 2x annual revenue right now. 1x might be more >>> realistic. depending on the network and what a new operator would have to >>> do >>> to bring it into theirs, etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> Daniel White >>> >>> 3-dB Networks >>> >>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com >>> >>> >>> >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher >>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:30 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question re: WISP for sale >>> >>> >>> >>> I have heard .5-2 times annual many times on this list........ >>> >>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>> >>> One way I have heard it done: >>> >>> Take the annual gross revenue, times it by 3 (three years gross revenue) >>> and >>> that's the buy out cost starting point. Seen this more so with telecom >>> (voice) then data services, but it's a place to start. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >>> improbable, must be the truth." >>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr < >>> pni...@cnetworksolutions.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> I apologize as I know this has been discussed on the list before. We >>> are entertaining the idea of selling out of our respectable size >>> wireless ISP business in eastern Oklahoma. We have about 500 (growing >>> daily) subscribers. Anyway, we are working on determining the net worth >>> of the business. Any thoughts or formulas for determining this? >>> >>> >>> >>> Patrick Nix, Jr., >>> Computer Network Solutions >>> CSWEB.NET Internet Services >>> IT Manager >>> >>> http://www.cnetworksolutions.com >>> http://www.csweb.net >>> >>> (918) 235-0414 >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and >>> privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please >>> notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and >>> destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a >>> person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be >>> illegal. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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