Wouldn't use XR2 for 5GHz shots as they are 2GHz only ;) Also, I would 
guess you'll be turning down the power to keep it legal?

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Barnes [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 29 July 2009 18:18
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Distance

Something Like a MT411a XR2 and a Arc 23 DB Panel

Steve Barnes
Manager
PCS-WIN
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Paul Hendry
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Distance

Depends on many things. What's at the CPE end for example.

Steve Barnes wrote:
> I have a 2.4 sector that has terrible interference from a competitor 
pointing right at it and I am considering changing it to 5.8.  With a 
17dBi 120 degree sector what should the effective distance I can hope to 
achieve?  I can get 6 mile Off of another sector on this same tower with 
2.4.
>
> Steve Barnes
> Manager
> PCS-WIN<http://www.pcswin.com/>
> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service<http://www.rcwifi.com/>
>
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Brian Webster
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:26 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and 
WOW.....
>
> That point was actually clarified on the FAQ list posted.
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
>
>
>
> St. Louis Broadband wrote:
> Humm, not what I am reading into it.
> Lol, maybe I have read it too many times...  ;-)
>
>
> Victoria Proffer
> www.StLouisBroadband.com<http://www.StLouisBroadband.com>
> 314-974-5600
>
> From: Brian Webster [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:41 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and 
WOW.....
>
> It's really 40% of the homes passed by the applicants designated 
service area. Same rules apply for the percentage of households who have 
access to broadband. The percentage is calculated over the area 
designated by the applicant as their complete project area. The only 
real chance you have to challenge is on the applications that come in as 
unserved, but even then the RUS and NTIA have said they will reserve the 
right to then convert that application to an underserved one.
>
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
>
>
>
>
> RickG wrote:
>
> Is that 40% of homes passed or 40% of LOS?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:40 AM, St. Louis
>
> Broadband<[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
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>
>
> They will be posted, for 30 days, on the NTIA site during their "due
>
> diligence" phase.
>
> Any ISP that contests will have to provide the proof that they have a 
40%
>
> take rate.
>
>
>
>
>
> Victoria Proffer
>
> www.StLouisBroadband.com<http://www.StLouisBroadband.com>
>
> 314-974-5600
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On
>
> Behalf Of RickG
>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:08 PM
>
> To: WISPA General List
>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and 
WOW.....
>
>
>
> And on that note, where can you find a list of applications?
>
> -RickG
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Mike 
Hammett<[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
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> wrote:
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>
>
> If someone comes in and undercuts you, it's your fault for not 
protesting
>
> their application.
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>
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>
> -----
>
> Mike Hammett
>
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>
> http://www.ics-il.com
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>
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>
> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 7:51 AM
>
> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]>
>
> Subject: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW.....
>
>
>
>
>
> Yesterday there was a broadband stimulus seminar in Columbus, OH
>
>
>
> featuring
>
>
>
> Senator Sherrod Brown, ConnectOhio.org, USDA Rural Development. I went
>
> with
>
> an open mind and left not wanting anything to do with this "free 
money"
>
>
>
> to
>
>
>
> be had.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The government is trying to get as much control out of the ISP's that
>
>
>
> take
>
>
>
> this money as they possibly can. The reporting requirements for ISP's
>
>
>
> that
>
>
>
> take this money is a huge burden. This makes FCC Form 477 look like a
>
>
>
> walk
>
>
>
> in the park compared to what they want to know. There are about 30-50
>
> things
>
> that they want you to report on and some of it is just crazy. I can't
>
>
>
> list
>
>
>
> it all but they basically want to know what brand of toilet paper and 
how
>
> much of it you use per customer.. And this will apply to your entire
>
> existing infrastructure that was in place before you took the money.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> They can come in and look at all your confidential records anytime 
they
>
> want. They can even change the rules years down the road and possibly
>
>
>
> tell
>
>
>
> you what to charge your customer per month to what they think is fair.
>
> They
>
> can also tell you how to do your QoS and what you can and can not 
block.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This sounds like the same deal with the bank bailouts from last year 
that
>
> once they took the money and found out what role the government wanted 
to
>
> do
>
> with them that they wanted to give it all back but wasn't allowed. The
>
> majority of the attendees once we got into the workshops and started
>
> talking
>
> among each other was that they don't want anything to do with this 
money
>
> at
>
> all either once they found out all the hidden strings attached to it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> They are encouraging few larger projects than many smaller ones. I 
asked
>
> them what about the area that already has 2-3 fixed wireless ISP's and 
if
>
> they give the money to a very large outfit that comes into the area 
and
>
> undercuts the smaller guys by $5/month and runs them out of business 
if
>
> that
>
> could happen and they said it probably would. I said well you just 
killed
>
> 3
>
> small businesses to create a larger one what the heck did you just
>
> accomplish that for and they just gave me a blank stare like I was 
crazy.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This is not about getting broadband internet to un-served/underserved
>
> area's, this entire stimulus is about the government trying to gain as
>
> much
>
> control as they possibly can into the ISP business..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm going to start running ads saying "go with us, we refused to take 
the
>
> stimulus money."
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> Kurt Fankhauser
>
> WAVELINC
>
> P.O. Box 126
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> Bucyrus, OH 44820
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> 419-562-6405
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> www.wavelinc.com<http://www.wavelinc.com>
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