Yes, Steve fat fingered the number.
And Yes, he does a good job of keeping his links legal.

Paul Hendry wrote:
> Wouldn't use XR2 for 5GHz shots as they are 2GHz only ;) Also, I would 
> guess you'll be turning down the power to keep it legal?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Barnes [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: 29 July 2009 18:18
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Distance
>
> Something Like a MT411a XR2 and a Arc 23 DB Panel
>
> Steve Barnes
> Manager
> PCS-WIN
> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Paul Hendry
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:58 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Distance
>
> Depends on many things. What's at the CPE end for example.
>
> Steve Barnes wrote:
>   
>> I have a 2.4 sector that has terrible interference from a competitor 
>>     
> pointing right at it and I am considering changing it to 5.8.  With a 
> 17dBi 120 degree sector what should the effective distance I can hope to 
> achieve?  I can get 6 mile Off of another sector on this same tower with 
> 2.4.
>   
>> Steve Barnes
>> Manager
>> PCS-WIN<http://www.pcswin.com/>
>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service<http://www.rcwifi.com/>
>>
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
>>     
> On Behalf Of Brian Webster
>   
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:26 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Cc: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and 
>>     
> WOW.....
>   
>> That point was actually clarified on the FAQ list posted.
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Brian Webster
>>
>>
>>
>> St. Louis Broadband wrote:
>> Humm, not what I am reading into it.
>> Lol, maybe I have read it too many times...  ;-)
>>
>>
>> Victoria Proffer
>> www.StLouisBroadband.com<http://www.StLouisBroadband.com>
>> 314-974-5600
>>
>> From: Brian Webster [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:41 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and 
>>     
> WOW.....
>   
>> It's really 40% of the homes passed by the applicants designated 
>>     
> service area. Same rules apply for the percentage of households who have 
> access to broadband. The percentage is calculated over the area 
> designated by the applicant as their complete project area. The only 
> real chance you have to challenge is on the applications that come in as 
> unserved, but even then the RUS and NTIA have said they will reserve the 
> right to then convert that application to an underserved one.
>   
>> Thank You,
>> Brian Webster
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> RickG wrote:
>>
>> Is that 40% of homes passed or 40% of LOS?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:40 AM, St. Louis
>>
>> Broadband<[email protected]>
>>     
> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>   
>>
>> They will be posted, for 30 days, on the NTIA site during their "due
>>
>> diligence" phase.
>>
>> Any ISP that contests will have to provide the proof that they have a 
>>     
> 40%
>   
>> take rate.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Victoria Proffer
>>
>> www.StLouisBroadband.com<http://www.StLouisBroadband.com>
>>
>> 314-974-5600
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: [email protected]
>>     
> <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On
>   
>> Behalf Of RickG
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:08 PM
>>
>> To: WISPA General List
>>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and 
>>     
> WOW.....
>   
>>
>> And on that note, where can you find a list of applications?
>>
>> -RickG
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Mike 
>>     
> Hammett<[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
>   
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> If someone comes in and undercuts you, it's your fault for not 
>>     
> protesting
>   
>> their application.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Mike Hammett
>>
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>
>> http://www.ics-il.com
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>>
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>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 7:51 AM
>>
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
>>     
> <mailto:[email protected]>
>   
>> Subject: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW.....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yesterday there was a broadband stimulus seminar in Columbus, OH
>>
>>
>>
>> featuring
>>
>>
>>
>> Senator Sherrod Brown, ConnectOhio.org, USDA Rural Development. I went
>>
>> with
>>
>> an open mind and left not wanting anything to do with this "free 
>>     
> money"
>   
>>
>> to
>>
>>
>>
>> be had.
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>>
>>
>>
>> The government is trying to get as much control out of the ISP's that
>>
>>
>>
>> take
>>
>>
>>
>> this money as they possibly can. The reporting requirements for ISP's
>>
>>
>>
>> that
>>
>>
>>
>> take this money is a huge burden. This makes FCC Form 477 look like a
>>
>>
>>
>> walk
>>
>>
>>
>> in the park compared to what they want to know. There are about 30-50
>>
>> things
>>
>> that they want you to report on and some of it is just crazy. I can't
>>
>>
>>
>> list
>>
>>
>>
>> it all but they basically want to know what brand of toilet paper and 
>>     
> how
>   
>> much of it you use per customer.. And this will apply to your entire
>>
>> existing infrastructure that was in place before you took the money.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> They can come in and look at all your confidential records anytime 
>>     
> they
>   
>> want. They can even change the rules years down the road and possibly
>>
>>
>>
>> tell
>>
>>
>>
>> you what to charge your customer per month to what they think is fair.
>>
>> They
>>
>> can also tell you how to do your QoS and what you can and can not 
>>     
> block.
>   
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This sounds like the same deal with the bank bailouts from last year 
>>     
> that
>   
>> once they took the money and found out what role the government wanted 
>>     
> to
>   
>> do
>>
>> with them that they wanted to give it all back but wasn't allowed. The
>>
>> majority of the attendees once we got into the workshops and started
>>
>> talking
>>
>> among each other was that they don't want anything to do with this 
>>     
> money
>   
>> at
>>
>> all either once they found out all the hidden strings attached to it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> They are encouraging few larger projects than many smaller ones. I 
>>     
> asked
>   
>> them what about the area that already has 2-3 fixed wireless ISP's and 
>>     
> if
>   
>> they give the money to a very large outfit that comes into the area 
>>     
> and
>   
>> undercuts the smaller guys by $5/month and runs them out of business 
>>     
> if
>   
>> that
>>
>> could happen and they said it probably would. I said well you just 
>>     
> killed
>   
>> 3
>>
>> small businesses to create a larger one what the heck did you just
>>
>> accomplish that for and they just gave me a blank stare like I was 
>>     
> crazy.
>   
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This is not about getting broadband internet to un-served/underserved
>>
>> area's, this entire stimulus is about the government trying to gain as
>>
>> much
>>
>> control as they possibly can into the ISP business..
>>
>>
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>>
>> I'm going to start running ads saying "go with us, we refused to take 
>>     
> the
>   
>> stimulus money."
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>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>
>> WAVELINC
>>
>> P.O. Box 126
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>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
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>> 419-562-6405
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>> www.wavelinc.com<http://www.wavelinc.com>
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