There is one that is all stainless steel. I don't know if I still have the part number as the last ones I purchased were 5 years ago. I will look.
Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > It looked to me like just the tab is metal. Like the flex cuffs that the > cops use. > marlon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Reed" <scottr...@onlyinternet.net> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 8:47 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installs on Towers, what's your method? > > > >> See a couple of earlier posts about Panduit wire ties. They have >> plastic coated stainless steel, etc. >> >> >> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> >>> I've never heard of such a thing. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 12:06 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installs on Towers, what's your method? >>> >>> >>> How about the metal zip ties? >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Marlon K. Schafer<o...@odessaoffice.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I have not seen any zip ties hold up. Even the supposedly uv rated ones. >>>> >>>> The BEST I've seen so far (learned this from an old time linesman) is to >>>> use >>>> a big, uv rated zip tie to hold things. Wrap that with good quality >>>> electrical tape to keep the sun off of it. >>>> >>>> Or just do like the old timers. I've seen some VERY old towers out here. >>>> What's holding that cable on 30 years later? Wire. Wrap it around a >>>> couple >>>> of times, twist and forget. >>>> >>>> marlon >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:18 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installs on Towers, what's your method? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I disagree on the electrical tape. Every climb where I see electrical >>>>> tape >>>>> the stuff is remarkably frail. A stiff breeze would peel it right off. >>>>> Maybe 3M is way better then whatever I saw. >>>>> >>>>> The tower climber I have to use for a couple towers lead me to these >>>>> and >>>>> I >>>>> love them: >>>>> http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=455824&eventPage=2 >>>>> >>>>> They can get tighter due to finer distances between ridges and last >>>>> "forever". As was said, these things are razor sharp once cut. Just >>>>> last >>>>> week I cut my finger on one of these and didn't notice it for a good >>>>> while. >>>>> >>>>> I can't think of anything to add to that list since you posted it but >>>>> I'm >>>>> sure someone will get an idea =) >>>>> >>>>> Good list to have! >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >>>>> improbable, must be the truth." >>>>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Scott Carullo >>>>> <sc...@brevardwireless.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Similar but instead of Zip ties use good electrical tape (3m) >>>>>> >>>>>> Put enough wraps (6-10) and it will last probably longer than tie wrap >>>>>> and it puts more even pressure on all cable types than tie wraps >>>>>> >>>>>> Bonus is no rough edges, have one size fits all roll, able to remove >>>>>> without tools etc >>>>>> >>>>>> Scott Carullo >>>>>> Brevard Wireless >>>>>> (321) 205-1100 x102 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 4, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I just thought I'd share what we do for our tower installs, and find >>>>>>> out >>>>>>> what/if anything other people are doing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RF Prep >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Use Radio Mobile to determine what we will need for antennas, >>>>>>> radios, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Basic Tower Side/Mounting/Cables >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Use a 18"-24" standoff mount, or sometimes direct to the leg >>>>>>> (sectors and backhauls). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Use LMR400 for jumper connections, mastic, tape, butyl, tape. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. Use CMXR for Cat-5e cable, solder the ground ends, seal >>>>>>> around >>>>>>> with heatshrink. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. Use Dielectric Grease on all connections. Protects the >>>>>>> Ethernet port and cable from allowing condensation or moisture to >>>>>>> build >>>>>>> up on the connector and get water inside the cable. I also use it on >>>>>>> RF. Once I was on a building and installing a link. I didn't have >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> tape, so I just used dielectric grease on the connector. I went back >>>>>>> to that building a year later and the connections are still solid. I >>>>>>> know for a fact I have had water in a connector when only using >>>>>>> mastic, >>>>>>> so this was bare and it was dry. Link is still solid. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5. Use UV Rated zip ties, so that they don't break later on down >>>>>>> the road. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lightning Protection Side >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Use QLW-8080s Ethernet Surge Suppressor on interior of any >>>>>>> MikroTik board. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Use PolyPhaser Lightning protection on all connections. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. Use 600SS or other Canopy Grounding >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. Check the resistance in the current grounding from tower to >>>>>>> ground source. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5. Use CMXR for the grounding and double shield. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Safety Fall Protection >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Hard Hats/Helmets Everyone there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Steel-toed boots with the arch plate for standing on those >>>>>>> towers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. We use Elk River and DBI/Sala Exofit Tower XP Harnesses, 1-2 >>>>>>> positioning lanyards and an adjustable lanyard from Petzel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. Loads of shackles, beaners, block/pulleys, 5k lb load rope >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> 1k lb tag line. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5. Cable/Rope Grabs >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6. Food/Drink/Hydration (they say water is best at tower class, >>>>>>> works for me) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 7. Safety plan and project meeting >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Base >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. We setup a UPS. (sometimes battery banks, depending on the >>>>>>> importance of the tower) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. We install a monitor/remote power switch. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. Solar panels, aimed per the internet for optimal sun. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. Trojan Deep Cycle batteries, easy to find at the golf cart >>>>>>> shops. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5. Setup a Site Monitor and Sync Injector if Canopy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6. Ground out everything at the base. Setup 600SS and other >>>>>>> surge >>>>>>> supressors >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 7. Mount POE's, Switches, etc. to 3/4 " x4'x4' plywood >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 8. Typically every tower we put up has a RB/450G or a RB/493AH >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do a ground run through to make sure you aren't missing anything. >>>>>>> Happy >>>>>>> vertical travels, and up you go. Take your time, double check >>>>>>> everything 3 times, as you don't want to forget and safely come down. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm probably missing some things here, but that's what I can remember >>>>>>> off-hand. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chuck Hogg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Shelby Broadband >>>>>>> 502-722-9292 >>>>>>> ch...@shelbybb.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.shelbybb.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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