I have a tower with UV plastic jacket stainless steel ties.  I think 
they are Panduit.  Install like normal ties.  Wider than normal and 
should last forever.  Not cheap, but ...

Some tower also has rubber coated loops with screw holes.  I did not 
supply them, so not sure where to find them.  Screwed them to the wire 
ladder.  Not as easy as ties, but wide and removable/reusable.

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> I have not seen any zip ties hold up.  Even the supposedly uv rated ones.
>
> The BEST I've seen so far (learned this from an old time linesman) is to use 
> a big, uv rated zip tie to hold things.  Wrap that with good quality 
> electrical tape to keep the sun off of it.
>
> Or just do like the old timers.  I've seen some VERY old towers out here. 
> What's holding that cable on 30 years later?  Wire.  Wrap it around a couple 
> of times, twist and forget.
>
> marlon
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installs on Towers, what's your method?
>
>
>   
>> I disagree on the electrical tape.  Every climb where I see electrical tape
>> the stuff is remarkably frail.  A stiff breeze would peel it right off.
>> Maybe 3M is way better then whatever I saw.
>>
>> The tower climber I have to use for a couple towers lead me to these and I
>> love them:
>> http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=455824&eventPage=2
>>
>> They can get tighter due to finer distances between ridges and last
>> "forever".  As was said, these things are razor sharp once cut.  Just last
>> week I cut my finger on one of these and didn't notice it for a good 
>> while.
>>
>> I can't think of anything to add to that list since you posted it but I'm
>> sure someone will get an idea =)
>>
>> Good list to have!
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
>> improbable, must be the truth."
>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Scott Carullo 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Similar but instead of Zip ties use good electrical tape (3m)
>>>
>>> Put enough wraps (6-10) and it will last probably longer than tie wrap
>>> and it puts more even pressure on all cable types than tie wraps
>>>
>>> Bonus is no rough edges, have one size fits all roll, able to remove
>>> without tools etc
>>>
>>> Scott Carullo
>>> Brevard Wireless
>>> (321) 205-1100 x102
>>>
>>> On Aug 4, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I just thought I'd share what we do for our tower installs, and find
>>>> out
>>>> what/if anything other people are doing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> RF Prep
>>>>
>>>> 1.       Use Radio Mobile to determine what we will need for antennas,
>>>> radios, etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Basic Tower Side/Mounting/Cables
>>>>
>>>> 1.       Use a 18"-24" standoff mount, or sometimes direct to the leg
>>>> (sectors and backhauls).
>>>>
>>>> 2.       Use LMR400 for jumper connections, mastic, tape, butyl, tape.
>>>>
>>>> 3.       Use CMXR for Cat-5e cable, solder the ground ends, seal
>>>> around
>>>> with heatshrink.
>>>>
>>>> 4.       Use Dielectric Grease on all connections.  Protects the
>>>> Ethernet port and cable from allowing condensation or moisture to
>>>> build
>>>> up on the connector and get water inside the cable.  I also use it on
>>>> RF.  Once I was on a building and installing a link.  I didn't have
>>>> any
>>>> tape, so I just used dielectric grease on the  connector.  I went back
>>>> to that building a year later and the connections are still solid.  I
>>>> know for a fact I have had water in a connector when only using
>>>> mastic,
>>>> so this was bare and it was dry.  Link is still solid.
>>>>
>>>> 5.       Use UV Rated zip ties, so that they don't break later on down
>>>> the road.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lightning Protection Side
>>>>
>>>> 1.       Use QLW-8080s Ethernet Surge Suppressor on interior of any
>>>> MikroTik board.
>>>>
>>>> 2.       Use PolyPhaser Lightning protection on all connections.
>>>>
>>>> 3.       Use 600SS or other Canopy Grounding
>>>>
>>>> 4.       Check the resistance in the current grounding from tower to
>>>> ground source.
>>>>
>>>> 5.       Use CMXR for the grounding and double shield.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Safety Fall Protection
>>>>
>>>> 1.       Hard Hats/Helmets Everyone there.
>>>>
>>>> 2.       Steel-toed boots with the arch plate for standing on those
>>>> towers.
>>>>
>>>> 3.       We use Elk River and DBI/Sala Exofit Tower XP Harnesses, 1-2
>>>> positioning lanyards and an adjustable lanyard from Petzel.
>>>>
>>>> 4.       Loads of shackles, beaners, block/pulleys, 5k lb load rope
>>>> and
>>>> 1k lb tag line.
>>>>
>>>> 5.       Cable/Rope Grabs
>>>>
>>>> 6.       Food/Drink/Hydration (they say water is best at tower class,
>>>> works for me)
>>>>
>>>> 7.       Safety plan and project meeting
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Base
>>>>
>>>> 1.       We setup a UPS. (sometimes battery banks, depending on the
>>>> importance of the tower)
>>>>
>>>> 2.       We install a monitor/remote power switch.
>>>>
>>>> 3.       Solar panels, aimed per the internet for optimal sun.
>>>>
>>>> 4.       Trojan Deep Cycle batteries, easy to find at the golf cart
>>>> shops.
>>>>
>>>> 5.       Setup a Site Monitor and Sync Injector if Canopy
>>>>
>>>> 6.       Ground out everything at the base. Setup 600SS and other
>>>> surge
>>>> supressors
>>>>
>>>> 7.       Mount POE's, Switches, etc. to  3/4 " x4'x4' plywood
>>>>
>>>> 8.       Typically every tower we put up has a RB/450G or a RB/493AH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do a ground run through to make sure you aren't missing anything.
>>>> Happy
>>>> vertical travels, and up you go.  Take your time, double check
>>>> everything 3 times, as you don't want to forget and safely come down.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm probably missing some things here, but that's what I can remember
>>>> off-hand.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Chuck Hogg
>>>>
>>>> Shelby Broadband
>>>> 502-722-9292
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> http://www.shelbybb.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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