I'd want to see that graph dropping off sooner, perhaps finishing the  
charging by about 1pm. Is your charge controller a 3 stage charger  
(bulk, absorb, float) or some approximation? It looks like your  
batteries might just be getting full when the sun is going down. Was  
that a clear sky day? How long has that site been in service? Are you  
getting a good lifespan out of the batteries?

Greg

On Aug 27, 2009, at 1:22 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:

> Here is the graph straight from the charge monitor for our solar  
> panels,
> to give you an idea what the charging pattern looks like.   This is  
> for
> a pair of 60w panels.
>
> http://www.thelar.com/gallery2/v/Wireless/Hogback/ 
> graph_image1.png.html
>
> Matt Larsen
> vistabeam.com
>
> Christopher Erickson wrote:
>> First, the Sun never shines 24 hours in a day unless you are above
>> the Arctic circle.  And even then, that only happens for a few days
>> of the year.
>>
>> Second, there isn't much charging going on when the Sun is near the
>> horizon, which is most of the time when in Northern latitudes.
>>
>> For example, an 80 watt panel will NEVER output 80 watts in  
>> Anchorage,
>> Alaska because even at solar noon in the summer, the Sun is only
>> around 60 degrees up in the sky.  And below about 25 degrees, there
>> isn't any charging going on at all.
>>
>> So anyway think of an amperage sine wave that builds up in the  
>> morning,
>> peaks at solar noon and then diminishes in the afternoon.
>>
>> The math is more complicated than it first appears.
>>
>> "My advice is always free and worth every penny!"
>>
>> -Christopher Erickson
>> Network Design Engineer
>> 5432 E. Northern Lights Blvd., Suite 529
>> Anchorage, AK 99508
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
>>> boun...@wispa.org]on
>>> Behalf Of Mike
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:06 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I buy into your math.  If I have a repeater site that  
>>> is
>>> pulling 1A @ 12V, then it is consuming something like 12W, right?   
>>> If
>>> I have 60W of solar panel (2 toys) then when conditions are optimal,
>>> I have 48W left over to charge the battery.
>>>
>>> Lets say I am REALLY north, and the panels are only producing  
>>> 45W.  I
>>> still am consuming 12W with the radios, and have 33W left over to
>>> charge the battery.  If I have an 800AH battery 24 Hours of sun will
>>> run the radios AND fully charge the battery.  If the sun shines 24
>>> hours out of 33.3 days, I will stay ahead of the curve and the
>>> battery will stay charged.
>>>
>>> No sun for 33.3 days and my 800AH battery will finally die.  I NEVER
>>> see those conditions here in the midwest.  I'll still maintain you
>>> can do a repeater site for $500 in solar power costs and if you
>>> monitor battery condition it will work just fine.
>>>
>>> At 09:54 PM 8/26/2009, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here in the north, I wouldn't bother with anything less than 100w  
>>>> of
>>>> panel.
>>>>
>>>
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