Once again the host board does not need to be more the part B certified which 
is a self certified process (documentation is on routerboard.com). 
TVS-R52 is certified with routerboard and a slew high gain antennas. 

Every time I hear this argument about system certified as complete system I 
just want to scream. Just turn your own laptop over take the FCC id of the 
radio card in your laptop and go look it up and you will see it is almost 
guaranteed NOT certified with the same model it is now sitting in. Proof enough 
for you that you do not need this supposed complete system certification or 
maybe it's time to turn in HP, Dell, gateway, Appel et al for selling non 
certified solutions by the millions each year. This could be billions for FCC 
in fines if it was the case but it is not so they created the part B 
certification process years back to allow for rapid growth in the computer 
industry. 
Only the tranciever and the antenna components need certified together. 

The FCC cert lab we used also said the same and basically would do the testing 
of the cards we personally certified with high gain antennas with each system 
board we wanted to use because it wasn't needed. Also they only required us to 
certify with the highest gain of each family we wanted certified and each 
antenna of same performance and characteristics of same or lower gain in the 
same family would be covered if "we" the certification owners said it was 
equal. So we could if we wanted sell a 9dB omni as a certified antenna if we 
had passed with a 12dB it would be. Also if we wanted to change from one brand 
12dB omni the WE who own the certification could do this substitute but all 
others that was users could ONLY use the omni models WE would "permit" as 
certified. So there is no end user substitute but the certification "owner" can 
as long that the antenna selected is NOT of a higher gain and we can "prove" 
that it's a equal antenna. So certified with a plain 12dB omni we 
 couldn't change to a active 12dB omni similarity or certify a 19dB panel and 
substitute for a 19dB grid dish. 

/Eje
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-----Original Message-----
From: "ralph" <[email protected]>

Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:00:20 
To: 'WISPA General List'<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices


Pretty broad statement: "MT is FCC Certified :)"  
Yes, I believe the wireless cards themselves might be- but even if they are,
that does not an FCC certified system make.
Please give me some FCC registration numbers of certified systems. Something
like the RB/card/enclosure combination.
Maybe someone built a system and had it tested and received a number for
*that system*.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

MT is FCC Certified :) 

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Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
WISPA Vendor Member
Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training
Author of "Learn RouterOS"


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of ralph
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:57 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

Marlon-
You asked, and you probably already know what I will say

Airaya and others: FCC Certified
Mikrotik- Not so much
It all depends on if you want to be legal or not.


If you want 802.11, then look at the Ubiquiti Powerstation. Seems to
work
fine for us, just don't mount it outside.

Ralph

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:19 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] backhaul choices

Hi All,

I have to upgrade a couple of backhaul systems and I'm wondering what
others

are using.

I've got Airaya gear in place.  I've LOVED it.  That's been some of the
most

reliable gear that I've ever used.

I also like my Mikrotik hardware so far.  We've put quite a bit of it in

over the last year or so.

Both of the links I'm going to replace are indoor units with coax to the

outdoor antennas.  So no fancy weather issues to deal with.

It would be nice to go with Airaya again.  But the MT hardware to do the

same job is about 20% of the cost last time I checked.  I hate to go too

cheap, but I hate to spend too much for no gain.....  What are you guys 
using these days?  Again, the antennas and such are already in place,
all I 
need to replace is the indoor ratios.

Why would you install what you put in?

laters,
marlon



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