In a related story - don't believe the polarity markings on an antenna 
unless you've verified them back at the shop. We've had batches of 
same-model antennas come in with some (but not all) of them marked 
incorrectly.

Tom S.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Barnes" <[email protected]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multipath


> This is going way out there what happens if you turn your radio 90 
> degrees.  Last month I had a client who was installed wrong. Tower was 
> Horizontal and guys setup the radio vertical but it worked and they did 
> not know any better.  I got checking the tower later and saw the client 
> was -79 at the tower.  I called them in Chewed them out for installing 
> wrong and sent them back.  They followed my orders and the signal at the 
> tower dropped to -59 I turned down the radio and stabilized it at -69.  I 
> was happy.  Next day the customer called and said could we come back and 
> fixed what we had changed.  I started them doing pings and they were 
> terrible.  So I drove out to the house.  Messed with it for 1/2 hour. 
> Climbed to the radio turned it back to the Wrong Polarity and set the 
> power back and the speed and pings were perfect.  I came back to the 
> office walked in the door and there was my installers standing there 
> waiting for an apology. I smiled, shrugged my shoulders and yelled "G
> et back to work"  Moral to the story if it's a very close install 
> sometimes it is too close and you need to make the radio work harder on a 
> wrong polarity.
>
> Steve Barnes
> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>
> Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience 
> of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, 
> ambition inspired, and success achieved.
> - Helen Keller
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:30 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multipath
>
> Multipath and/or scintillation.  It looks like the sun is shining and
> 65 degrees in Salem.  Sun beating on that metal surface can cause
> heat waves to rise in front of the antenna causing
> scintillation.  Sometimes this stuff is black magic and moving a CPE
> a couple feet one way or another can make a world of difference.
>
> No trees or branches in the Fresnel zone waving in the breeze?  I'd
> try adjusting the tilt as suggested, them putting a pipe section in
> the J mount and moving it up 2.5' or so.
>
> Hope you figure it out.  Let the list know.
>
> At 01:39 PM 9/29/2009, you wrote:
>>I am curious if anyone thinks this is multipath and has a suggestion on
>>how to fix.
>>
>>
>>
>>This just happens to be my dads house, radio mounted to a j-mount on eve
>>of house, clear LOS to tower <1 mile away, -56 signal. This eve is over
>>the porch roof to the east and signal shoots over the south plane of the
>>roof which is an approx 30deg angle. I was over this morning and he is
>>complaining the Internet is not working and I go in to do some
>>troubleshooting. I setup a constant ping to the AP and I am getting
>><1ms, I start to browse and the pings jump to >300ms and random lost
>>packets.
>>
>>Configure a new radio in the house and have a -75 signal in the house,
>>try the ping thing again and all seems fine. I replace he radio on the
>>roof and I am back to the poor ping times again.
>>
>>
>>
>>Now I don't understand multipath as well I should but it seems to make
>>sense in this case. Is it possible to reduce or remedy without moving
>>the radio to a totally different location?
>>
>>
>>
>>Mark McElvy
>>AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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