You'll see a dramatic improvement by upgrading from Wrap to Alix. Our net 
throughput easily doubled when we did that.

Tom S.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RickG" <[email protected]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] To G or not to G :-)


We've been running B mode since 2004. I dont lock the rates down but
always shoot for 11Mbps. I like the idea of G mode but every time I
try it, performance drops on the customer side. It may be because
we're still on WRAP's running StarOS v2. I just started updating to
v3, and it seems to be better. I plan on testing out small channels
soon. I'm also debating between Routerboards w/Mikrotik versus
Ubiquiti.
-RickG

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Jason Hensley <[email protected]> wrote:
> In 2.4 land, if you have a lot of noise, which protocol is better - B or 
> G?
> Is it better to run an AP as locked into one mode or is it OK to do a mix?
>
> Max I want off of 2.4 customers is 3meg so not that worried about the 
> extra
> speed that G will provide, but, I would like to know which is more stable?
> I've always thought that B was more stable overall but just provided less
> bandwidth. I've gotten some info that may counter that. What's the
> real-world experience with folks in a high-noise environment, combined 
> with
> a higher useage AP?
>
> I've got an AP that we've run in B mode only for a while. We've started
> having problems with it - speeds go from 3meg at the customer to 200k and
> fluctuate constantly. We've worked with RTS, ACK timeouts, etc etc and
> nothing seems to have improved the stability. For testing purposes we put
> up another AP right next to the one we're having trouble with. Switched 
> two
> of our gaming clients to that one (setup as G mode only) and they seem to 
> be
> doing better, but not quite as good as we feel they could be. This is on
> Deliberant AP's (Duos). The backhaul part of it is not the issue - we can
> pull close to 15meg back to our office when cabled into the AP. We have
> other Deliberant APs that are running MANY more clients than this one so 
> we
> know it's not limitations of the equipment. AP is on top of a water tower.
> Have taken all clients off and brought them back on one by one and it did
> not reveal anything significant. With just one customer on the AP started
> acting up again. Swapped radios in the AP thinking we could have one going
> bad and still no luck.
>
> 2.4 antennas are H-pol. We have a ton of noise in the area, but we've been
> through basically every channel and it did not help either. Other AP's in
> the vicinity are performing fine. Thought of the multipath issue so we
> raised our test AP up a little higher than the other one. As I said, the
> test AP seems to be better, but next to it on top of the tower we can get
> around 8 or 9 meg down (locked into G mode), but at the CPE's we're still
> barely getting 2.5-2.8meg.
>
> Any thoughts? We changed everything we can. The new "test" AP has a 9db
> antenna compared to the 13db on the "production" AP. Other than that, they
> are identical as far as equipment goes.
>
> So, back to the subject question though, what's real-world experience with
> G-only mode in the field?
>
>
>
>
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