I would never do upnp.  Almost certain I have all the ports recommended
forwarded.

Josh Luthman
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On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]>wrote:

> With uPNP or forwarding port 3074?
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:18 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX 360
>
> > I have a MT router and one layer of NAT at home.  Zero issues.
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
> > improbable, must be the truth."
> > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Mike Hammett
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> >> I haven't been successful in getting MT uPNP to work with the XBox...
> >> then
> >> again, I haven't tried since 2.9 days.  Does it work now?
> >>
> >>
> >> -----
> >> Mike Hammett
> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >> http://www.ics-il.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> From: <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:11 PM
> >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX 360
> >>
> >> > I know Xbox don't like NAT at all. Even just single nat. What I did on
> >> > my
> >> > own home router was to turn on upnp on the inside and that solved te
> >> > "issues" but then my home router was the only nay device and had
> public
> >> ip
> >> > on it's wan interface (my home router is of course a MT box).
> >> >
> >> > /Eje
> >> > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Mike <[email protected]>
> >> > Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:38:41
> >> > To: WISPA General List<[email protected]>
> >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX 360
> >> >
> >> > They haven't gotten any "not good enough" messages from the xbox.  I
> >> > assume the fix of which you speak was done on the client router and
> >> > not your core equipment?
> >> >
> >> > Ping times from my monitoring position, through a wireless router in
> >> > my home, out a customer client (I have us set up just like a
> >> > customer) through my core, back out a sector, to their repeater
> >> > sector, out their repeater, through a client in the house and finally
> >> > a switch varies from 4ms to 7ms USUALLY.
> >> >
> >> > The client sector facing my tower is set up as a bridge.  The
> >> > repeater connected to it is set up to do DHCP and NAT.  The client in
> >> > the house is set up as a bridge to let the repeater do all the
> >> > DHCP/NAT.  So, there really is only one place the IPs are natted.
> >> >
> >> > I will tell him to 1) make sure his firmware is the latest.  I think
> >> > you can just update from the Xbox, tight?
> >> > 2) to try different games or a different group of users to see if
> >> > it's the server or not.
> >> >
> >> > I guess I never knew the servers were out in other users homes, kinda
> >> > like P2P or a sort of distributed computing?  I guess I thought the
> >> > Xbox live servers were centrally located.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > At 09:02 AM 10/5/2009, you wrote:
> >> >>The only issue we have with Xbox are situations where XBOX Live tells
> >> >>the
> >> >>end user that their router is not a high enough level of compatibilty,
> >> >>so
> >> >>it
> >> >>is not allowed to connect with all Xbox live sessions.. (sorry I
> forget
> >> >>the
> >> >>exact term they use).  To Fix that it requires two things... 1) The
> >> >>port
> >> >>forward rules... TCP/UDP 3074 and UDP 88. 2) for Linksys under
> >> >>security,
> >> >>uncheck everything " Block Anonymous Internet Requests  , Filter
> >> Multicast
> >> >>, Filter Internet NAT Redirection ,  Filter IDENT(Port 113)".  Not
> >> >>every
> >> >>thing there matters, but I forget which one or two is relevent.
> >> >>
> >> >>For us Xbox performance has not been an issue, and it should be noted
> >> that
> >> >>we only have residential customers on Trango 900Mhz sectors, averaging
> >> >>40
> >> >>homes per sector. There is just a big a chance that the XBOX users are
> >> >>getting congestion on XBOX's Hosted Server side of the connection,
> >> >>dependant
> >> >>on which they are using to establish connection. If you suspect your
> >> >>network, then I'd look for basic network quality type things like
> >> >>latency
> >> >>and packet loss on all hops end to end.
> >> >>
> >> >>Tom DeReggi
> >> >>RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> >> >>IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>----- Original Message -----
> >> >>From: "Mike" <[email protected]>
> >> >>To: <[email protected]>; "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> >> >>Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 10:41 PM
> >> >>Subject: [WISPA] XBOX 360
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >I have a couple XBOX 360 players saying they are having lag
> >> >> > issues.  It seems a low bandwidth consumer.  How are you guys
> >> >> > optimizing for them?  I'd like to try and make them happier. Is
> >> >> > there
> >> >> > a down side?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I know Marlon asked last winter but a good answer never appeared on
> >> the
> >> >> > list.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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