I don't trust anything along the lines of "automatic + network + Microsoft" but I hear upnp works on the MT.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>wrote: > That's how I have it setup now. Maybe some time I should test to see if > uPNP works with it now. Would make my life a lot easier. > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:23 PM > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX 360 > > > I would never do upnp. Almost certain I have all the ports recommended > > forwarded. > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > > improbable, must be the truth." > > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Mike Hammett > > <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>wrote: > > > >> With uPNP or forwarding port 3074? > >> > >> > >> ----- > >> Mike Hammett > >> Intelligent Computing Solutions > >> http://www.ics-il.com > >> > >> > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------- > >> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > >> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:18 PM > >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX 360 > >> > >> > I have a MT router and one layer of NAT at home. Zero issues. > >> > > >> > Josh Luthman > >> > Office: 937-552-2340 > >> > Direct: 937-552-2343 > >> > 1100 Wayne St > >> > Suite 1337 > >> > Troy, OH 45373 > >> > > >> > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > >> > improbable, must be the truth." > >> > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > >> > > >> > > >> > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Mike Hammett > >> > <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>wrote: > >> > > >> >> I haven't been successful in getting MT uPNP to work with the XBox... > >> >> then > >> >> again, I haven't tried since 2.9 days. Does it work now? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ----- > >> >> Mike Hammett > >> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions > >> >> http://www.ics-il.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -------------------------------------------------- > >> >> From: <e...@wisp-router.com> > >> >> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:11 PM > >> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX 360 > >> >> > >> >> > I know Xbox don't like NAT at all. Even just single nat. What I did > >> >> > on > >> >> > my > >> >> > own home router was to turn on upnp on the inside and that solved > te > >> >> > "issues" but then my home router was the only nay device and had > >> public > >> >> ip > >> >> > on it's wan interface (my home router is of course a MT box). > >> >> > > >> >> > /Eje > >> >> > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > >> >> > > >> >> > -----Original Message----- > >> >> > From: Mike <m...@aweiowa.com> > >> >> > Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:38:41 > >> >> > To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org> > >> >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX 360 > >> >> > > >> >> > They haven't gotten any "not good enough" messages from the xbox. > I > >> >> > assume the fix of which you speak was done on the client router and > >> >> > not your core equipment? > >> >> > > >> >> > Ping times from my monitoring position, through a wireless router > in > >> >> > my home, out a customer client (I have us set up just like a > >> >> > customer) through my core, back out a sector, to their repeater > >> >> > sector, out their repeater, through a client in the house and > >> >> > finally > >> >> > a switch varies from 4ms to 7ms USUALLY. > >> >> > > >> >> > The client sector facing my tower is set up as a bridge. The > >> >> > repeater connected to it is set up to do DHCP and NAT. The client > >> >> > in > >> >> > the house is set up as a bridge to let the repeater do all the > >> >> > DHCP/NAT. So, there really is only one place the IPs are natted. > >> >> > > >> >> > I will tell him to 1) make sure his firmware is the latest. I > think > >> >> > you can just update from the Xbox, tight? > >> >> > 2) to try different games or a different group of users to see if > >> >> > it's the server or not. > >> >> > > >> >> > I guess I never knew the servers were out in other users homes, > >> >> > kinda > >> >> > like P2P or a sort of distributed computing? I guess I thought the > >> >> > Xbox live servers were centrally located. > >> >> > > >> >> > Mike > >> >> > > >> >> > At 09:02 AM 10/5/2009, you wrote: > >> >> >>The only issue we have with Xbox are situations where XBOX Live > >> >> >>tells > >> >> >>the > >> >> >>end user that their router is not a high enough level of > >> >> >>compatibilty, > >> >> >>so > >> >> >>it > >> >> >>is not allowed to connect with all Xbox live sessions.. (sorry I > >> forget > >> >> >>the > >> >> >>exact term they use). To Fix that it requires two things... 1) The > >> >> >>port > >> >> >>forward rules... TCP/UDP 3074 and UDP 88. 2) for Linksys under > >> >> >>security, > >> >> >>uncheck everything " Block Anonymous Internet Requests , Filter > >> >> Multicast > >> >> >>, Filter Internet NAT Redirection , Filter IDENT(Port 113)". Not > >> >> >>every > >> >> >>thing there matters, but I forget which one or two is relevent. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>For us Xbox performance has not been an issue, and it should be > >> >> >>noted > >> >> that > >> >> >>we only have residential customers on Trango 900Mhz sectors, > >> >> >>averaging > >> >> >>40 > >> >> >>homes per sector. There is just a big a chance that the XBOX users > >> >> >>are > >> >> >>getting congestion on XBOX's Hosted Server side of the connection, > >> >> >>dependant > >> >> >>on which they are using to establish connection. If you suspect > your > >> >> >>network, then I'd look for basic network quality type things like > >> >> >>latency > >> >> >>and packet loss on all hops end to end. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>Tom DeReggi > >> >> >>RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > >> >> >>IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- > >> >> >>From: "Mike" <m...@aweiowa.com> > >> >> >>To: <sarn...@info-ed.com>; "WISPA General List" < > wireless@wispa.org> > >> >> >>Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 10:41 PM > >> >> >>Subject: [WISPA] XBOX 360 > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I have a couple XBOX 360 players saying they are having lag > >> >> >> > issues. It seems a low bandwidth consumer. How are you guys > >> >> >> > optimizing for them? I'd like to try and make them happier. Is > >> >> >> > there > >> >> >> > a down side? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I know Marlon asked last winter but a good answer never appeared > >> >> >> > on > >> >> the > >> >> >> > list. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Thanks > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> >> >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> >> >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >>WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> >> >>http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >> > >> >> >>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> >> >> > >> >> >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> >> >>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> >> >> > >> >> >>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > > >> >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> >> > > >> >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> >> > > >> >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > > >> >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> >> > > >> >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> >> > > >> >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> >> > >> >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> >> > >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> >> > >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > > >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > > >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/