You hit the nail on the head. Lower frequencies means bigger antennas...lots bigger. If you think the 900 sectors are large, just wait until you get to 700, or as someone said earlier, 100MHz. Ever seen a ham tower with a long wire stretched between the tower and a couple of trees? Now think about the uplink. What kind of antenna do you think will be needed at the customer premise? Indoor penetration is nice, but think about those old TV sets with rabbit ears....and they were receive only. So what if you can propagate 20 miles...how do you get the signal back. Low frequency comes with it's own technical problems. We need a better data standard for starters (802.20 would have been far superior to WiMax IMHO), and some clean spectrum would be nice, but not necessarily low frequency.
Cameron Patrick Leary wrote: > 700 MHz is not the panacea some might think. Technically, it is a > nightmare for bi-directional services. > > > Patrick Leary > Aperto Networks > 813.426.4230 mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:30 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barriers to WISP growth > > Imagine WISPs using 700mhz to service their customers. No stimulus > package needed. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > improbable, must be the truth." > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> Bingo! >> >> Sent from my Motorola Startac... >> >> >> On Oct 8, 2009, at 12:15 PM, "Robert West" <robert.w...@just- >> micro.com> wrote: >> >> >>> I think the major barrier to wisp growth is lack of quality, NLOS >>> spectrum. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Marco Coelho >>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:21 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barriers to WISP growth >>> >>> Patrick, >>> >>> Not being one for gov money.... >>> >>> We have excellent credit. We have that because we only expand at a >>> rate the will allow funding (new business) to cover our costs. So >>> the cycle goes: >>> >>> 1. Build out X number of Towers. >>> 2. Market X number of Areas. >>> 3. Install Customers to X*Y until well funded. >>> >>> Repeat. >>> >>> I think a lot of the companies that take stimulus money are going to >>> > > >>> go under in the long run. They will go like the dot-coms. Build >>> build Build.... Ah shit no revenue! >>> >>> That being said, we are vertical, all workers work for the company. >>> That is the only way you can control quality. Good employees are >>> very hard to find. For every 100-200 applications/resumes, maybe 10 >>> > > >>> are worth talking to seriously. You're lucky to find 1 that is >>> worth hiring. >>> >>> Always a ray of sunshine! >>> >>> Marco Coelho >>> Argon Technologies Inc. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:25 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Patrick, >>>> >>>> #1- Labor: There is very little skilled resources here. >>>> #2- Funding: Especially for labor. Normal financing channels are >>>> available but I will not take on too much debt at one time. >>>> #3- Time: There is little extra time to dedicate towards expansion >>>> versus daily operations. >>>> >>>> Notes- >>>> Employees: Too small to enjoy such a "luxury". >>>> Stimulus: I don't believe in it and did not apply. >>>> Technologies: Proprietary equipment are a bit too expensive unless >>>> you buy CPE in 100 packs. Even then, the AP's are still expensive. >>>> >>>> -RickG >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Patrick Leary >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> Regardless of your tech choice -- Moto, 802.11-based, WiMAX or >>>>> other, I am interested to know what are the greatest barriers to >>>>> growth and why? >>>>> >>>>> Some possibilities: >>>>> Is it funding and if so, are your normal channels for money frozen >>>>> > > >>>>> or otherwise gone? >>>>> Is it competition? If so, how specifically. >>>>> Are you constrained from hiring due to high cost of employee >>>>> benefits (e.g. health insurance)? >>>>> Are you stalled waiting for response from your stimulus >>>>> > application? > >>>>> Are you stalled trying to defend against someone else's stimulus >>>>> application that would include your market? >>>>> Are the current technologies too expensive or technicall >>>>> inadequate to deliver what you need to compete? >>>>> >>>>> Patrick Leary >>>>> Aperto Networks >>>>> 813.426.4230 mobile >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> --- >>> --- >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- >>> ---- >>> >>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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